Trump insinuates using rifles to fire on Liz Cheney

I know what he said and I quoted his own words, and I didn't ask you to spin it, or try to justify his BS. He wouldn't mind seeing media people get shot up.

 

You are leaving out the part right before he said that which in this case matters a great deal.

 

Ah, one of those guys. There is an entire section of the forum for that.

 

It's not hard to envision a MAGA shooter targeting Lizzie, then Trump pardoning them. Trump's henchmen would have a free-for-all purge if Trump was in power, knowing he'd pardon them all. ..... And then there's that 'presidential immunity' thing too.

 

He will probably pardon Cesar A. Sayoc, the original MAGA-Bomber

"Cesar Sayoc sent rudimentary bombs — none of which detonated — to 16 targets, including Bill and Hillary Clinton, former Vice President Joe Biden, several members of Congress, former President Barack Obama and actor Robert De Niro. Devices were also......."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/florida-man-pleads-guilty-to-mailing-bombs-to-trump-critics

 

It is far easier to imagine Kamalala and her cronies carrying out such after all they did such a purge in 2020 and were pretty much let off scott free.

 

What you didn't do is comprehend what the premise of the OP is.

Those are Trump’s words -- plain as day, spoken from a podium in front of a cheering crowd, and yet you’re pretending they don’t exist. They are unhinged statements no public figure could nor would ever make, let alone a former President of the United States. In fact, there is no context that makes Trump’s words anything less than an act of verbal assault, a gross display of power fantasy. Words like that -- wishing a gun’s barrel were ‘trained’ on someone’s face? What context mitigates the inappropriate imagery? You don’t sugarcoat it. You don’t downplay it. It’s raw, violent imagery aimed directly at an American official, a critic of Trump’s -- someone daring to speak truth to power.

Now, imagine if Kamala Harris had said that about, say, Mitch McConnell or any other political opponent? The GOP media machine would light up like the Fourth of July, screaming until dawn. They’d be flinging their hands to the sky, invoking the Founding Fathers, clutching their pearls, and calling for hearings, impeachments, and resignations. Heads would be exploding across conservative media with cries of unfitness, radicalism, and violence. Yet, here we have Trump standing there, openly fantasizing about this woman being in the line of fire -- making a ‘point’ that reeks of hypocrisy, considering he dodged the draft five times. That last deferment, by the way, was a medical loophole he exploited; the guy who supports and adores war from the safety of his golf cart (oh yeah, there is a tape of him approving of Bush's war) now wants to paint Cheney as the problem.

It is what Trump what Trump put out into the public square. No context can soften it, no spin can save it. For any reasonable person --Republican, Democrat, anyone who believes a President should have some modicum of decorum -- it’s clear: this isn’t leadership; it’s thuggery, plain and simple. And the fact that you can defend it, call it ‘propaganda’ or whatever to highlight it, speaks volumes about where you and the right are in politics today. So, please, explain again how there’s ‘context’ to make this acceptable in any universe. There isn't. as for 'context', what is that suppose to mean? Cheney was never president, she never ordered anyone into battle. She, like the rest of congress, were bamboozled by Bush and Colin Powell that there were 'weapons of mass destruction'. Even Trump, on Howard Stern, expressed approval for the war, not to mention Trump got 5 deferments and during his first week, ordered the Yemen raid in which a Navy Seal was killed, and he has the audacity to say that we should put guns to Cheney's head and see how she feels for supporting the war?

Are you ****ing kidding me? Trump is colossal hypocrite, but no, you don't want to talk about that.

As for Biden's 'garbage' remark, why do you even care? One fleeting remark that he said was 'supporter's' and others say 'plural', I take Biden at his word, and he did express regret for saying it that way, so that the right could make a mountain out of a proverbial molehill, but why do you care, Trump has been denigrating democrats as 'the enemy within' as 'thugs' as 'radical extremist' as 'scum', and doing it daily and at every rally for YEARS, and you got a problem with one fleeting remark? Your priorities are bass ackwards.

 

And why is that relevant to the discussion?
The issue is our military in Afghanistan and who was responsible for that massive screw up.
Not our success or failure in prosecuting a war.
Try to focus.
Diversion fail.

 

That point is not in dispute. Knowing all the facts regarding the event and Biden decisions is crucial to understand why he did what he did.

All you are showing is that your only motive is to assign total blame to Biden, and ignore all that occurred during Trump, even years before, that led to that event. That is disingenuous. I started a new thread on this since we've hijacked this thread.

Read the op here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/revisiting-the-afganistan-withdrawal.622845/

 

I have already read that piece of garbage.

 

Yeah, 'one of those guys' who always questions the official narrative to see if it jives with actual facts. I'd rather put my brain to use than to rely on blind incredulity.

By the way, when 911 happened, I at first believed it was 'Muslim terrorists', but thought - well, that's what America gets for continuously meddling in the affairs of Muslim countries - and that was part of my conditioning. However, when critical questions about the attack weren't being addressed, or the answers didn't make sense, I decided to dig deeper than what the MSM was dishing out.

 

Fortunately, Trump won't get that chance - because Harris will be our new president. We're one day away from Trump's irrelevancy.

 

What 'purge' are you referring to? The 'stolen election' myth?

 

Well, but trump has never said give Ukraine to Russia, has he?
And he hasn't threatened our only democratic ally in the mid east with cutting off those arms shipments trying to force them to lose their war against our common enemy, has he?

Please at least try to stay in the realm of verifiable facts, not fantasy land.

 

Heh, OK.

 

Biden was POTUS the failure is on him. If this debacle would have happened under Trump, you lefties, your Democrat demagogues, the MSM, DNC and Soros funded legal appointments would all be spinning like tops with 'Orange Man Bad' shouting and hysteria.

Biden was not coherent enough to control the elements Trump had already controlled. When Biden was elected, these groups went wild and Biden did nothing about it.

 

Google is nobody's friend when trying to find objective information, their searches are heavily left biased.

 

REALITY is heavily biased against Trump.

 

Hardly


The Next President Inherits a Remarkable Economy
https://www.wsj.com/economy/the-next-president-inherits-a-remarkable-economy-7be2d059

 

Debunked

http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/revisiting-the-afganistan-withdrawal.622845/

 

Yeah, right

Studies indicate there were some 200,000 people who died needlessly owing to Trump's incompetence in the handling of covid
https://slate.com/news-and-politics...coronavirus-deaths-avoidable-unnecessary.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

 

Incompetent rebuttal

fail

 

read this thread
http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/revisiting-the-afganistan-withdrawal.622845/

what I've done is try to be as Fair as possible and that conclusion comes clear near the end of the op please read it

 

If you get your info from Google, you are not dealing in reality. It limits search results to the left.

 

Nope... just more of your gish galloping on your part...