Trump Made Air Force Stop Overnight at His Scotland Golf Course

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He turned his peanut farm over to a blind trust, so in essence yes.

    Something that trump has refused to do

    I noticed you didn’t answer the question, feel free to try again
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So in fact no he did not sell. And the blind trust put it into bankruptcy which he spent years having to get out from under.

    Something that trump has refused to do

    What kind of "abuses"? What do you mean by that? What is the abuse here?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is refreshing to see dems take a sudden interest in opposing waste and abuse of power.
     
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    Did it start happening immediately after Trump? I missed that part. When did the first US flight land there?
     
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    It kinda looks like we been told fake news again.

    Prestwick Air Base is not some small civilian airport in Scotland but a big air base that is used by both the RAF and USAF.

    But the Democrats witch hunts will continue.

    ‘If God had designed an airport, it would have been Prestwick.’

    There's more...

     
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    Good to know since you must of stayed there since you know so much about it. how many floors does this hotel have?

    AC, really! it’s scotland ffs it’s not uncommon at all for UK hotels not to have AC it’s not needed

    Or you could choose one of the other 20 hotels in the area that are closer and cheaper
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, things that were expected of other presidents is ignored for this one... for some reason.
    The precedent will be staggering

    Just remove abuse from the sentence.
    Should a president be allowed to profit from their position?
     
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    Bunk.
     
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    Yes which is why i quoted part near the end ....

    Do you all ever bother to attack the topic and not people like me?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Asking a question isn’t an attack.
     
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    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    "Do y’all even bother to read full articles before you post?"

    Keep in mind me asking a poster to read past the headlines was counted as a personal attack and an infraction so yes around here your "question" was insulting my intelligence which i could have reported.. You should know this more then most around here.

    Instead of rushing to attack me you could have realized that my quoted part of the article was near the end of it... So unless you for some reason thought only read that part for some reason.......
     
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  12. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should I “know this more then most around here”?

    I can never tell what is or isn’t a personal attack, I have seen posts deleted that I cannot see how it is a personal attack and others that were most definitely personal attacks that were allowed. The rules seem to be up to interpretation these days...

    I was not insulting your intelligence
     
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    Were you not a mod?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No sir
     
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    "The Air Force replied to the Politico report by challenging several key assertions made by both Maddow and Politico. First, the Prestwick Airport was independently contracted by the Department of Defense, and both parties agreed to terms that would allow the department to refuel at “standardized prices” — precisely the going rate that Maddow scoffed would be available only at a military base. Next, the Air Force’s use of the airport adjacent to the Trump hotel does not appear to be a novel phenomenon meant, as the Politico article speculates, to “line the president’s pockets.” Instead, well before the president’s inauguration, records show that the Air Force had used the small airport 95 times in 2015 and 145 times in 2016. While the number of stops there has since increased — the Air Force reports stopping in Prestwick 259 times through August of this 2019 — it is not as though the location was unknown to the Air Force or the Department of Defense until the president roped them into a secretive money-funneling gambit. And there are strategic features that make the otherwise obscure airport in Prestwick a preferable location for refueling. From the Air Force’s statement:

    Additionally, Air Mobility Command [AMC] issued a flight directive to mobility crews in June 2017 designed to increase efficiencies by standardizing routing locations, with Prestwick being among the top five locations recommended for reasons such as more favorable weather than nearby Shannon Airport, and less aircraft parking congestion than locations on the European continent that typically support AMC’s high priority airlift missions. By considering factors like these to save costs and increase operational efficiencies, Air Operations Center contingency planners have increasingly turned to Prestwick to develop route plans for lower priority contingency needs such as training, deploy/redeploy and Guard airlift missions."
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/rachel-maddow-story-questions-air-force-integrity/

    I don't see a problem with this.
     
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    So can we all agree now that this was fake news (again)?
     
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    Another Maddow moment? :roflol:

    Why does ANYONE even give her or the NYT and credibility in their reporting and commentating anymore? They both have egg all over their faces AGAIN.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Boomerang to Democrat's Faces, Take 2,953.
     
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    They never look before they leak.

    The Dems find a "Gotcha!" and they run snitching to their leftist media propaganda wing, who then trumpets it out without bothering to do the slightest bit of investigation or fact checking.

    Two days later, the truth is revealed, and, the left looks dumber than doorstops... again.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.
     
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    "The controversial arrangement by the U.S. Air Force to refuel at a Scottish airport near President Trump’s Turnberry golf resort apparently was signed under the Obama administration, according to multiple reports.

    The details emerged as the Air Force was called to explain a March stopover in the Scottish resort -- with Democrats on the House Oversight Committee writing to Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan as part of their investigation into alleged conflicts of interest by the president. The twist revealing that the airport deal predates his administration could boost Trump's case."

    "Politico, which was among the outlets to publish stories this week examining the relationship between the Air Force and the resort, reported that the Air Force crews stayed at Trump’s Scottish resort up to 40 times since 2015.

    It also reported that the contract with the Prestwick Airport was in fact signed during the Obama administration. The Washington Post also reported that the airport was sending visiting crews to Trump’s course before he ran for president.

    The Air Force said in a statement that relatively few crews stayed at Trump Turnberry between 2015 and 2019.

    “We reviewed the vast majority of the 659 overnight stays of Air Force crews in the vicinity at Glasgow Prestwick Airport between 2015 and 2019. Approximately six percent of those crews stayed at the Trump Turnberry,” the statement from an Air Force official said. “As a practice, we generally send aircrews to the closest, most suitable accommodations within the government hotel rate. The review also indicated that about 75 percent of the crews stayed in the immediate vicinity of the airfield and 18 percent stayed in Glasgow.”"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/air-force-deal-with-airport-turnberry

    "The U.S. Air Force said Thursday it reviewed overnight stays by crew members who stopped at Glasgow Prestwick Airport between 2015 and 2019 to refuel and found about 6 percent stayed at President Trump’s Scottish golf resort."

    "The review also indicated that about 75 percent of the crews stayed in the immediate vicinity of the airfield and 18 percent stayed in Glasgow."

    https://beta.washingtonpost.com/pol...e9-9610-fb56c5522e1c_story.html?noredirect=on

    "But the Air Force has significantly ramped up its overnight stops in Scotland under Trump after signing a contract with the Prestwick Airport — situated 20-plus miles from Turnberry — in the waning months of the Obama administration."

    "Officials have also said the Turnberry bookings fall within acceptable rates for military travel, as military members are charged a government rate as low as $130 per night."
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/12/air-force-trump-scottish-resort-1493624

    Thanks Obama!!!!

     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A president unjustly profiting from his position is why we have the emoluments clause and why trump chose to ignore it to thunderous applause.
     
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    What's bunk is that it's closest and cheapest.

     
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    That was answered in the article I posted but I don't expect you to read them or take acknowledge that you are wrong. Carry on as usual.
     

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