Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries as prez

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just want to ask an honest question. How much money poured into the Clinton Foundation when she was SoS and a presidential candidate?
     
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    You have no evidence and the Democrats have no evidence..
     
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    Still ok that trump got paid millions by foreign governments while POTUS. Got it.
     
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    Everyone has the basic same toilet habits. Very little kids need help wiping their butts. Senile old people also need help wiping their butts. Some people with certain disabilities needs help wiping their butts.

    Trump doesn't fall into any of those categories. Biden does.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Yep, typical. Ignore context to push an agenda. That is the leftists way. Spin, twist, insinuate, ignore, lie.
     
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    This is just another pathetic desperate attempt to muddy the waters with election interference by the Democrats who have not one shred of evidence of Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries.
     
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    Surely the depth and breath of irony in your post does not escape you :D!?
     
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  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I recall something about a swamp.....
     
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    Ahh, I don't know if you noticed, but the 'renting out rooms in hotels' is much more than that, and it is teh PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, money made while he was negotiating with these countries.

    He openly brags about it while President:

    Hunter is a private citizen, who has NO impact on foreign policy.


    Hunter has been accused of money laundering, corruption, bribery, influence peddling, in the public sphere for a few years now, all the while being investigated by US Attorney David Weiss, and no charges on these items in the six years he has been investigating.

    And, I could make the same accusation against you. Just because there isn't any evidence YOU took a bribe doesn't mean there isn't any.

    Don't you see the problem with an accusation like that?
    You're trying to trivialize it by saying 'a few hotel rooms'.

    Well, the depth, breadth, and the political favors dished out are spelled out
    here:

    https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2024-01-04.COA DEMS - Mazars Report.pdf

    The above is just a few clips, it goes into much more eyebrow raising detail.

    But you guys on the right don't give a damn.

    On 'evidence' against Joe:
    I haven't seen it because no one has presented it. You guys just think you have. When the rubber hits the road, it isn't evidence that conclusively proves that Joe Biden took a bribe, or engaged in money laundering, influence peddling, or corruption.

    No evidence that conclusively implicates Joe Biden has ever been produced. If there had been, Weiss would have made a criminal referral.

    I'm not ignorant, Republicans are incompetent. Comer and his clown show do not understand what direct evidence is. Apparently you do not, either.

    Weiss does, but he's not charging for any of the allegations. After 6 years, he files charges he could have filed years ago, for taxes and a gun charge few people are charged for.
     
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    Hunter Biden is a private citizen, why do you guys give a damn? Oh,. he's the president's son. If it were not for that, you wouldn't give him the light of day.

    Besides, what services he provided, he was willing to say at a public hearing, one that comer offered but retracted.

    You smear Hunter in the public sphere for years and you won't even allow him confront his accusers in public.

    Why, Because comer et al are going to be brutally humiliated once the truth comes out.

    And what legislative purpose does this Comer committee have?

    But Trump was president.

    But you dont give a damn.

    156 pages of CORRUPTION
    https://oversightdemocrats.house.go...files/2024-01-04.COA DEMS - Mazars Report.pdf

    But you don't give a damn.

    Hunter, private citizen, is the bad guy, and you got no evidence.

    None.

    Zip.

    Nada,

    Squat.
     
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    Its not just about Hunter and you know it. Pretending its about him is disingenuous. Also Biden said he had no contact with any of Hunters "business associates". That is a proven lie. One also does not have 20 some odd shell companies to move money through unless something nefarious is going on. Such is a good indication of money laundering. And why would someone launder money? To hide where it comes from and where it goes to.

    And yes, Trump was President when his 500 some odd companies made some money off of people using those companies services. What you haven't shown is that that money being spent for those services were used for anything BUT those services. All you've got is insinuation. So yeah, he made almost 8 million through his businesses offering their services to foreign people. So what. At least some of it was from contracts issued prior to him becoming President. (refer to post 17). He lost far more than that due to Democrats slandering him.

    Oh and by the by...arms deals with Saudia Arabia has been happening long before Trump came along. In fact Obama made a $115 billion deal with them. Was he "paid" for it also? Of course not. And you have no proof that Trump was either.
     
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    Being as Trump ran the most luxurious and highest profile properties in major citys that foreign dignitaries visited, I would guess they preferred Trump hotels to Motel 6.
    Lastly, the corrupt media and corrupt DoJ and FBI has been scorching the ground Trump walks on for going on eight years now, and the corrupt media is acting as though they have discovered something everyone has missed.
    The desperation of the corrupt left is palpable.
     
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    Your hung up on why the money was spent.

    It doesn't matter.

    That he is the President and didn't divest is what matters.
     
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    Show me where he is required to divest. Your mind doesn't count.

    And "why" the money was spent is important as it would actually tell if there was corruption or not. That is the part that you wish to ignore. Context matters. Which is why you are trying to ignore context with both Trump and Biden.
     
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    Here is the same story from the Wall Street Journal.
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/china-...ump-properties-during-his-presidency-277317cb

    There, it says, "Trump's Businesses Got Millions From Foreign Governments While He Was President." That's a big difference to me. So what you are upset about is that people stayed in Hotels owned by Trump. I'm pretty sure that people have also sued him for his businesses not making money (in a round about way). So are you mad because his businesses make money? We already know from Dick Cheney that you wouldn't be happy even if he put his businesses in a blind trust so what did you expect him to do with his Hotels?

    Seems like a nothing burger.
     
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    My goodness. Is everything "corrupt" in your view??
     
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    Former President Donald Trump received at least $7.8 million in payments from foreign governments during two years of his term in the White House, according to a report by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.

    At least 20 foreign governments — including “some of the world’s most unsavory regimes,” committee ranking member Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said — paid Trump’s businesses during the two-year period that the committee was able to review, with China being the biggest spender, according to the report.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...jfB2nAVZ18qpfjPJJtfcaUWdQLwzbOfoXVqA1oksBAAA=


    "payments" ??? -By international TGOVERNMENTS ? That does not imply simply renting rooms at T hotels.
    ( How much are the rooms at T hotels?? )
     
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    $650 per night at Mar-a-Lago (prices do vary (per google it ranges at $99 to $650) but since its governments we're talking about I'm using high end due to government waste, and Trump no doubt taking advantage and raising prices). JUST for staying the night. Doesn't count anything else like going to the golf course, food at its restaurant or any other hotel/business used, etc etc. equals out to $237,250 for just one person for one year. And you know foreign dignitaries are not eating cheap or not having fun whenever they get a chance. That's 474,500 in two years. Again, for just one person. Times that by 20 (amount of foreign governments) and you get $9,490,000. Looks to me like they underpaid going by your figure. By quite a bit since I'm sure foreign dignitaries have servants to help them.

    Now, add in all the other expenses, food, servants, golf etc etc and its quite easy to see how Trump would "make" a measly 7.8 million by them simply paying the expenses at a T hotel. He's always dealt with high end clientele to begin with. Which also means high prices.

    See, that is why the report by Democrats is misleading. It doesn't break down what the money was spent on. It just leaves it up in the air for inuendo, leaving it to your biased imagination. Yet a simple search of google and a bit of math and common sense is all that is needed to put their "report" 6ft under.

    By the by, if we cut that $650 per night in half that means 4,745,000 for just one person for each of those 20 foreign nationals. Add in servants, food etc etc and it easily comes to the 7.8 million mark also.
     
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    OK. (& thx)..... but renting rooms at the T Hotel is not the real issue. The issue is that if he did not put ALL his businesses into a trust while he was in office.....he was breaking the emolument clause. Was this not designed to prevent any "conflict of interest issues ?? and of course profiteering from political contacts. ( foreign gov'ts)
     
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    Actually it is the first that is actually against the law - the second is just, no law broken

    In fact the emoluments clause is part of that little thing the right keeps wanting to quote
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    Really? And what part of that was illegal?
     
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    The point of the emoluments clause was to prevent corruption. Where is the corruption? While yes, the clause was also meant to prevent even unconscious bias Trump never actually did anything that other Presidents hadn't done before. Ex: Saudia Arabia's "arms deal" that was mentioned earlier in the thread had been done by other Presidents in the past also. Indeed, according to google Obama made an "arms deal" with them that was worth more than the one Trump made with them.

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    There is nothing about the emoluments clause about not "profiteering" from their position either. In fact it requires just compensation even from domestic states and governments. If that just compensation equals out to a profit, well... it is what it is. Besides, how many X Presidents made more due to their position, than they made prior to becoming President? Book deals, speaking engagements etc etc. Hell, Obama profited off of two books he released while he was President. Did that violate the emoluments clause? Was that ever looked into in order to see how many of his books was bought by foreign nationals? Was he required to divest himself from it?
     
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    So...getting just compensation for services rendered is illegal...whereas getting money for god knows what reason...isn't. And you don't see the hypocrisy in that stance?

    I'd put in a facepalm meme here but I don't think there is any out there that would do justice to the amount illogic created by what you said...
     
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    Did someone benefit personally from the arms deal??
     
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