Trump says he expects to be arrested on Tuesday, calls for protests

What weaponization of the DOJ ? That's rightie talk for the DOJ investigating and prosecuting criminals for whom they have sympathy. Which kind of makes them criminals themselves. You know, aiding and abetting....

 

Agree, the extremists push, the opposites push back, but it's really the moderates who have ultimate control.
IMO, it's good to have the extremes, but important that they are not in power. We, as a society, should be moving forward, slightly, but not too quickly, as stagnation isn't good. I would call it "slightly progressive".

 

Lets weaponize the DOJ to take out the Bidens as well. Lets get rid of the Trumps and the Bidens as this country will be much better off without both of these absolutely corrupt individuals!!!

 

Part of the problem is that "moderates" (see, McCain, Romney, Flake, Bush, Cheney, etc.) are moving farther left themselves as the left wing extreme heads farther and farther that direction. Because "moderates" have a habit of accommodating certain left wing goals and, since the Clinton impeachment, have stopped accommodating any right wing goals out of fear of retribution, the left has been allowed to keep moving left and the right is constantly being fought for standing their ground.

 

I for one hope Trump is arrested and the details come out. This will effectively end his bid for President, which the republicans have much better options at this point and it will show the dems for the farce they are. This prosecutor and the dems are all fine and dandy letting street crimes. including rape and murder, go by the wayside but want to call an NDA a campaign finance felony and charge for it. Hell Congress has a fund just to handle NDA for these types of things, are they also campaign finance felonies?

 

Here is the rub for the conservatives. They will always be losing ground in my idea of a forward moving society, as my theory is that it will constantly be moving toward the "progressive" side, but a slow movement is preferred. If someone wants to truly keep everything the way it is, they will be disappointed.
If "conservative" equals "stay the same" to someone, they will "lose" most of the time, as we will evolve, which translates to change.
Change will occur, will the Republicans be able to keep up with it? I think yes, and they need to, as we need the conservative ideas to keep society from changing too much, too fast.
That is just my humble opinion. I think many overthink it. KISS (silly).

 

You know as well as I do that the DOJ has a ton of discretion, and applying the law for political gain of the aligned party is an abuse.

This hard on for Trump is simply that. A witch hunt type endless investigation using the FBI, DOJ, and any other agency/body to serve a vendetta. It's been going on since he announced his candidacy.

It's annoying, childish, and un-democratic.

If he broke the law, fine. Most legal scholars say the suspected charges won't hold up. That screams of vendetta.

 

lol, I think we'll have to wait and see. So far lots of investigating and no charges, which has been par for the course in recent decades. Remember Clinton investigations (both Clintons). Nothing has really happened yet, and we don't know the charges yet, let alone if they're well-founded. And even if these aren't, lots of other possibilities being investigated. We'll see.

 

Throwing out a big net with lots of holes in it to see what comes in.

This political motivation sure is great for the country!

 

LOL right because he acts like such an innocent little lamb, paying porn stars to shut them up, refusing to return classified info, asking Russia to find Clinton's e-mails, riling up people into thinking election fraud robbed him of the election, pressuring officials to "find" votes for him, using charitable funds to decorate his clubs, etc., etc.... lol... frankly his fame is a double-edge sword. Nobody wants to deal with him in court, but not much will go unnoticed or uninvestigated either. Republicans have no room to talk though with all the nonsense investigations they have had, the most significant result of which was stupid (Bill lying about his affair).

 

I don't think of "Conservative" as "stay the same". We can't stay the same and survive. What "Conservative" means to me is holding to core principles that have allowed us to be successful and productive pretty much since the beginning of time. It's about staying focused on personal responsibility and building people up rather than collective blame and lowering standards to accommodate failure. The process of being interdependent DOES NOT mean that we have to be dependent on each other as much as it means that we all need to work together to build a successful, healthy, resilient and productive society.

 

I dont defend Trump. Nor did I vote for him. I think he is generally a bad person. None of that changes or justifies the pettiness and perverting of government by the left for political vendetta.

The left trying to defend their actions because "orange man bad" is a terrible defense.

 

What pettiness and perversion of government ? The DOJ chases after criminals. How is that a vendetta ?

The right trying to defend Trump because "the other side did it too" is a terrible defense because it admits the crime.

 

Or not prosecuting criminals like Hunter Biden.

 

All the people who claim Trump is the victim of a political conspiracy don't know the law.

In every case he is likely to be prosecuted - and there are many - there is criminal conduct.

Whether it's the Georgia lawsuit, the Trump org. tax fraud, the Capitol Riot or the Stormy Daniels case,.

 

You have some evidence ? You need to get it to Comer ASAP. He'll be very grateful.

 

I don’t believe the name conservative was ever meant to be taken literally. conservatives do and always have called for some change.

 

He is doing what he always does, - WHINE.

He is not going to be arrested, the poor thing just needs attention, and shrieking 'SOROS' usually does the trick.

 

It didn't help that the conservatives took on the "Make America Great Again" slogan, which to many others sounded like they wanted to go backwards, to a "better" time. Revert. I've never actually gotten a good explanation of that one.
I think one of the problems with our society having discussions lately is that there is a lot of assumptions going around. People assume that if you are a conservative or liberal you have to fit this narrative and everyone in that "category" thinks the same way, but I find that even those that identify with one group or another don't necessarily hold ALL the same views or goals.
IOW, we are all individuals regardless of our political affiliations, and most of us don't necessarily fit the mold of "conservative" or "liberal".
Much of the arguing comes from assumptions made by another.
Thanks for your honest and respectful response!

 

Wow!
Thanks for your insightful and thoughtful response. What you describe is the part of "conservatism" that I find attractive, and what I find lacking in today's society. It exists for sure, but not nearly enough.
If I were a conservative, I would be kind of bothered by the hijacking Trump and the like extremists have done to the party. I think I see what happened, the conservatives have seen the liberals kind of "winning", as the liberal views are getting more popularity. Trump and other's have used that to play on people's fears to use them. I'm not discounting the role played by media, who also plays on the fears of the general viewer for..............money!
Boils down to power, money or both.
That, by the way, was one of the best descriptions of "conservative" I've seen in a long time! Thanks!

 

Garland has the tax evasion evidence. He paid $1M in tax liability. What services did Hunter provide? Seems a straight forward question the DOJ just can't seem to answer or won't.

 

It is nice to have a discussion on one of these forums instead of a poo flinging.

WRT Trump, I don't think he "hijacked" anything. I was loathe to vote for him in 2016 but Clinton and the prospect of what she was likely to do to the Supreme Court made it crazy for me NOT to vote for him. While I didn't have high hopes for his presidency I also looked at the insanity of the media in their opposition to him and the visceral reactions from the left, and KNEW that he wouldn't be as bad as they made it out to be. By the time we got to his inauguration I watched his speech and contrasted what I was hearing FROM him with what I was hearing ABOUT him in the news and from all the pink hat lunatics. Trump came off as nowhere near as bad as I figured he'd be.

While I didn't care for some of the things Trump said it became rather clear that his focus was, refreshingly, a whole lot less on "what the government can do for you" and a whole lot more about "what you can do for America". His political view, regarding domestic issues, came off as more JFK than anything else and I was OK with that. Later, when he hit Syria with the Tomahawks, he showed measured, considered restraint with regard to military matters. That was OK with me too. When it came to Obamacare he pretty much left the ball in the hands of congress, where is should be, and didn't push too hard. I was disappointed in the result there but that was more on "moderate Republicans" such as McCain that, from my POV, were the primary reason we got Obamacare in the first place. He made reasonable offers to Pelosi regarding immigration reform and got nothing but crap from her. His NAFTA deals got ripped in the media and by "moderates" all across the board but they ended up working.

Trump, even in light of all the hatred and opposition to him merely because of what he represented instead of what he did maintained the principles he said that he'd maintain and they were good, Conservative, principles. I'm OK with the guy. I don't have to like everything about a person to respect what they are trying to do.

 

I don’t believe this arrest will happen.

 

NOBODY EXPECTS The "Arrest to Happen" Today...
Trump's Mentally-Diseased Mind is Riddled With Deranged Unfounded Paranoia...
Trump (As Usual) MAKING UP Stories about being arrested...
Some Bigfoot Worshipper on 8chan made an Idiotic Fantasy post about Trump being arrested on Tuesday...
And Trump, just like the Mentally-Deranged IMBECILE (which everybody knows that he is):
Repeats the Bullshit like a Parrot with Tourette's...

 

just WOW…….

You think the right isn’t becoming more radicalized ? OK, the right in this country, you know, the “freedom party” wants the right for kids to have guns, but if that same kid sees a man in a dress, the world will end so we must protect them. The right, again the party of “freedom” is banning books that they disagree with. The right, the party of freedom, currently has an all out war on teachers, and education as a whole, because of a perceived “liberal bias”. Cant teach history, or about the black experience, because it may make someone else (read: White kids) “feel bad about themselves for something they didnt do”.

So theres a war on education, personal sexuality, and history, but thats because of “liberals” ?