Trump Should Be Pacifying Crackpots, Not Inciting Them

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    Is this a typo or are you serious? A women died due to a traffic fatality where some idiot panicked fearing for his life and stomped the gas while under siege. But that's neither here nor there. The protest had nothing to do "for the dead woman". It was a sidebar and result of Antifa and the Klan mixing it up. You really don't know the facts do you? I thought you were spinning.
     
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    Where were the fascists? I do not recall any there but for the storm troopers who self describe themselves as antifa. That name faked you out I see. You really accept their violence at face value? We have no actual nazis. We have misguided youth who believe in a symbol. But they can't be true nazis. Nazis had a political ideology. Saving historical statues was not their system. They believed in destroying history, not preserving it. If you believe those youth are genuine Nazis what happens if they say they are all atheists?

    I showed how one dipshyt driver can kill humans and not pretend any ideology.

    The woman killed was killed by one batchyt driver who is nuts in my opinion.




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    I know what I saw. I remember it clearly. There may not have been thousands in New Jersey, but they were celebrating there, and by the thousands in Muslim countries. Maybe he meant thousands of muslims celebrating and even in New Jersey. So it's not a lie to say thousands celebrated is it? It's not a lie to say they celebrated in New Jersey.

    EXCLUSIVE: Some Jersey City Muslims did celebrate 9/11, cop and residents say

    https://www.nj.com/news/2015/12/exclusive_jersey_city_cop_residents_say_some_musli.html
     
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    Of course I don’t.....I do know what swatzikas represent and there were plenty of them It’s unbelievable that you don’t connect the neo-Nazis and white supremacists with what they were protesting. I guess you think they just like pretty statues .I wouldn’t talk about not getting the news. You want to defend neo-Nazis, I don’t, we just have different values
     
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    I do not condone violence either and I was angry at antifa....But I just see the two groups differently
     
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    Trump very clearly said he saw thousands and thousands celebrating in New Jersey. Don’t make up excuses for what he meant to say. I am sure there were thousands of good Christians celebrating the death of Martin Luther King also.But if you can make it sound like there were thousands of Muslims in our country celebrating it makes it easier to bring out bigotry which is what Trump depends on for his base
     
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    I don't see this as a big deal "lie". Let's say you are right, that he's talking about thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey. So what? Did he get the numbers wrong? Yes. Did he get the story wrong? No. Muslims were celebrating in New Jersey. That is a fact. I couldn't care less if perhaps Trump misremembered or conflated the New Jersey Muslims with Muslims in Egypt, Palestine or wherever. I could not give one ****.

    I care that he's fixing this stuff, unlike RINO Republicans and dirty Democrats. We do need to stop muslims from coming here. Look at the violence they bring with them.
     
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    Antifa has a track record of violence. The other group is far more harmless. Hard to believe yet true. I am all for preserving the history in VA. I enjoyed that a lot when visiting to that state. Some of the same history is found in PA as well. Saw it myself. The people destroying it are youth. Youth that do not appreciate history.
     
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    Correct and I watched the one video. He did not say Muslims. He said people. Guess who took this on and reported what actually happened.

    It was not thousands of people, but it was a good number of Muslims celebrating.

    The investigation is reported here.

    I have never seen Christians screaming Allah Akbar, have you?

     
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    Crackpots need to be defused, not provoked by their Glorious Leader's hysterical pissytweets.

    John Kless, Cesar Sayoc, Robert Chain, Alex Fields, move over.

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    Well trump said his base would defend him no matter what he did and you prove that. You don’t care that he said there were thousands cheering in New Jersey THOUSANDS ...you don’t see that as a pathological lie. What about the proof he had that Obama was born in Kenya?He assured everyone that he had it and his base bought it. Oh and the largest crowds....these may be small lies to you but they are symptomatic of a pathological liar and a narcissist. What is so sad is he talks to his base like they are stupid with cursewords and childish name-calling.He talks down to them and they buy it.
    I would worry more about Americans and the violence they bring here. Who do you think all those mass shooters are?they are nice white Christians .
     
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    The reports show that they showed Muslims but they were old footage. Not in New Jersey.Trump said he saw thousands and thousands. If that doesn’t bother you you are a loyal Trumper and he counts on you.
    No I have never seen Christians screaming Allah Akbar but I have seen them chant anti-Jewish and anti-black slogans. Heil and the Nazi salute and the white hoods are no better.
     
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    Swastikas represent good luck.
     
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    Trump is not a pathological liar. Obama is - keep your plan, keep your doctor, $2,500 savings per family, free healthcare... And Hillary is a pathological liar, I didn't send or receive any classified information, I only used one device, Benghazi was because of a video...

    Trump never said Obama was born in Kenya. He said he should release his long form birth certificate, which Obama did. What's the harm there? He did Obama a favor by ending the controversy.

    I don't know why you blame mass shootings on white Christians. That's just stupid and offensive and bigotry. Hassan was a Muslim. The thousands killed in Baltimore and Chicago and other cities are mostly killed by blacks, not white Christians. But that just shows your prejudice.
     
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    He never said Muslims. And the clip I showed to you came from a source that worked to discover the facts. He said Trump was wrong on the numbers.

    Presidents have never effected me the way they appear to effect you. I do not rip off my eyebrows and swear to Satan the world ended.

    Even when it was Obama, I realized how poor of a president he was but he never made me go crazy.

    So few are connected to those nazis you fear they don't amount to a company of men in the army. Few side with them. I do not side with them.
     
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    Let's say it like this. The proof of the crowd size, and they are Muslims is about the size of the protesters crowd to save the statues in Charlottesville, Va.

    It disgusts me to see anybody pleased that 3000 people in NY City were killed that day. I wish you shared our values.
     
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    The family my wife works for bought a new car and put a swastika on it. Someone was going to report it as a hate crime until we told them it was a blessing according to their Indian religion.
     
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    Yeah well, the swastika is a very old symbol that predates the nazis by thousands of years. Morons don't know this, and only morons believe in hate crimes.
     
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    You don’t even understand what a pathological is. I don’t want to get into things like that healthcare plan. I can then say that Trump lied about building a wall, that Trump lied about giving us a great health plan. A pathological liar is one that he doesn’t even have to say like seeing thousands and thousands of people in New Jersey celebrating 9/11, like saying that he had the largest inauguration ever, like saying he is the healthiest president ever Elected etc.He says things on Twitter that can be checked in a second and he will deny he ever said them. That is a pathological liar. He will say things to his crowds and then tonight he ever said them even though they’re out there for everyone to see. That is a pathological liar
    The birther thing was disgusting .....he lied over and over .here are a few
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/index.html
     
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    You’ll learn more about a person by the side of the argument he defends. I know that it is an old symbol that was used in India ...But your dishonesty that you actually think those neo-Nazis aren’t using the symbol as a symbol of hate speaks volumes about you
    Only morons don’t believe there a hate crimes and only morons believe that the KKK and neo-Nazis aren’t hate groups
     
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    That doesn’t speak very well of the intelligence of the people your wife works for.
     
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    This is the problem with trying to have a discussion with an extremist. I am making a point that Trump lied and said there were thousands and thousands of Muslims celebrating 9/11.The purpose of that was to create anti-Muslim sentiments and put Muslims who live here in danger. But because you are an extremist and quite an insulting one you conclude that means I was happy that 3000 people died. I lived right near there and lost many friends from Cantor Fitzgerald. I guess having to thoughts on two different topics is too much for you.
    Trump said there were thousands ..(lie) and there were not thousands in Charlottesville and why did they want to save the statues while wearing neo Nazi garb? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to understand why. Why do you suppose they weren’t thousands supporting the statues? I wonder why they don’t have statues of Hitler in Germany
     
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    Now you’re beginning to insult my intelligence the same way trump insults yours. Who the hell was he saying were celebrating?The clip of Muslims celebrating has been debunked and shown to be taken years before in another country.
    I am not ripping off my eyebrows and swearing to Satan so stop with your childish insults like your president I’m sure you’ll have some stupid nickname for me like he has for anyone he doesn’t like. Presidents have never affected me this way because he is destroying the country. He is destroying our reputation all over the world and he is sucking up to Putin and other dictators. I don’t think you are bright enough to understand that it should affect you If you even think of comparing Obama to trump it speaks volumes about you. Obama was well respected all over the world. He had dignity and no scandals Obama rescued us from a great depression and turned the economy around Obama tripled the stock market.There was really nothing that you could hate about him.Perhaps you didn’t like some of the things he proposed but he was hardly a dangerous president . I hate a man who divides us deliberately, who brags about sexually assaulting women, who encourages violence and says neo-Nazis are some good people and is a pathological liar and lies thousands and thousands of time to an uniformed base who deny what he says on tweets and clips.He is a man who surrounds himself with garbage. How many people have been indicted who have work for him? How many people are going to jail? How many people have quit? He puts incompetents who are lackeys in top positions who have no credentials for the positions Instead of draining the swamp, he added alligators
     
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    Well you are not talking to an extremist. Wait, I am extreme for freedom but you do not like that part, do you?

    Trump said thousands of people cheered. In your protect the muslims and damn the cost, you imagined he said Muslims.

    If you think Muslims were not happy over the strike against America, take a new guess.

    I do not insult you one iota further than you insulted me and others arguing the point that Bush as president has done a very good job.

    My point was the number of Muslims proven to have celebrated here in the USA has been investigated and though not in the thousands, it was impressive or nobody would recall it.

    Not very many protested in Charlottesville either. That was my point. Some had garb, most did not.

    Hitler is a fake issue.
     
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    Well they are millionaires so there's that.
     

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