Trump, Trump, Trump.. The liberals deflections in an election year...

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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    "" I want to see the transcript of taped conversation between any Joe Biden and Zelenskiy meetings""
    Do you have a copy of any transcript or video between the Ukraine leader and Joe Biden that we can evaluate for quid pro quo?

    Also... would you have any links to the DOJ investigations into Joe Bidens involvement in Hunter's business dealings.... or do we once again have to wait for the legislative branch to do what the execute branch should have been doing for years now?
     
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    good luck with that, Trump made it so everything is executive privilege while he is in office, so be no investigating anything

    gone are the days of someone like Hillary spending hours in front of Congress under oath, the House has no teeth
     
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    Strange... I got to see Trump meetings leaked.... do you have one leaked from the Biden/ Zelenskiy meeting?
     
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    what was leaked, examples

    do you mean leaked by the Trump white house?
     
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    I’d say considering the outcome of the midterms, the deflection worked. The democrats gained a senate seat, 2 governorships while limiting their house loses to 9 seats. When the party in power has a sitting president hovering around a 40% overall job approval, Biden was at 42%, the average loses for the party in power was 48.5 house seats, 6 senators and 4.25 governorships. Yet the democrats gained a senator and 2 governors.


    What the Democrats did, liberals if you like was make the midterms a referendum on Trump and his chosen candidates than it was about Biden and company, inflation, crime, immigration etc. Why did that work, independents don’t like Trump, nor did they like his chosen candidates. Independents have a 38% favorable/58% unfavorable view of Trump. Independents also viewed Trump’s chosen candidates as extreme or incompetent, they were very poor-quality candidates. Thus, it wasn’t that hard to make the midterms about Trump.


    I’ll add this, until the Republican Party ditches Trump and MAGA, they aren’t going to win back independents, they dislike Trump too much due to his childish antics like name calling and throwing temper tantrums like a spoiled 4 year old brat along with his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics. His very unpresidential behavior along with his obnoxious, rude, uncouth personality plays a huge role also in why independents dislike him so. The Republican Party is the smaller of the two major parties and if they can’t win independents, they lose general elections. In 2018 the Republicans lost the house because independents voted for democratic congressional candidates. 2020 the Republicans lost the presidency and the senate due to independents voting for Biden and Democratic senate candidates. 2022, a year in which there should have been a red wave with Biden’s approval numbers in the tank, inflation, etc. 2022 turned into a red trickle if not a blue trickle. Independents once again voted Democratic. How can the Republicans regain or attract independents? The answer is simple. The question is will the GOP do it? If not, look for another Democratic win in 2024 as Trump and his chosen candidates will never be able to win the independent vote.
     
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    and the GOP won the House..
     
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    Yes, they did. The Republicans gained a total of 9 seats when a red wave election was expected. A wave election is defined as the party out of power who is in the minority or doesn’t control the house regains control, becomes the majority with gaining 30 plus seats. Some examples for midterms when a sitting president of the party in power is hovering around 40% overall job approval.


    Biden 2022 42% lost 9 house seats, gained 1 senate seat, gained 2 governorship

    Trump 2018 40% lost 44 house seats, 3 senate seats, 6 governors

    Obama 2010 42% lost 63 house seats, 6 senate seats, 4 governors

    G.W. Bush 2006 33% lost 33 house seats, 6 senate seats, 6 governors

    Bill Clinton 1994 42% lost 54 house seats, 9 senate seats, 1 governor


    The Democrats achieved a wave election in 2006 and 2018 while the republicans did so in 1994 and 2010. Gaining 9 seats when 40 or more was expected is a great downturn. That along with the Democrats gaining a senate seat with an additional 2 governors makes in my opinion the Democrats the victor for the 2022 midterms even with the loss of the house.


    If the Republicans met historical averages for the house with a sitting president sitting at 42%, they should have gained 48.5 seats instead of just 9. Regardless, the Republicans are a divided party which doesn’t know and can’t figure out which way to go. Stick with the past which brought losing elections in 2018, 2020 and 2022 or move on away from the past toward the future. The GOP may have control of the house, but chaos will ensure as the different factions within the Republican controlled house fight another. You seen a glimpse of that with the speakership votes. More to come I’m sure.
     
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    "Trump, Trump, Trump.. The liberals deflections in an election year..."

    Trump is the Republican 2024 Candidate, lol
     
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    Spin away… the Republicans won the House. It is that simple.
     
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    Why is the man still the leader of our country?

    "More than half the women in my cabinet, more than half the people in my cabinet, more than half the women in my administration are women."

    https://rumble.com/v2848es-february-2-2023.html
     
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    How much more of this is the citizens of the US gonna take.... he does not even know who the Senate majority leader is..
    But why worry about the dementia ridden president when you have Trump to beat up... yea Trump, who is not even president...

    Biden Mistakenly Refers to Chuck Schumer as Senate Minority Leader
     
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    CNN reports, "The continuing drama surrounding Republican Rep. George Santos of New York, whose self-constructed identity of lies is being dismantled piece by piece by journalists, is an irresistible spectacle — an odd concoction of amusing and infuriating.

    "But there’s one particularly disturbing aspect that points to a dangerous weakness in American democracy: Who paid for Santos’ election campaign? In other words, who has the most influence over the congressman?

    "The fact that it is so difficult to track down the source of this fantasist’s support reaffirms something that democracy funding experts have been telling us for years: Corrupt players are taking advantage of how democracy is financed in America.

    The same could be said for Donald Trump. He came from nowhere to win the Presidency in 2016, and he is trying again in 2024.

    This becomes even more important when one realizes Trump, as President, idolized the Russian dictator, Vladimir Putin, and the communist Chinese President, Xi Jinping. Putin aided the Trump campaign in 2016 by interfering in the Presidential election, according to American intelligence and the Republican Senate committee on intelligence.

    "Our relationship with China has now probably never, ever been better," Trump said, adding that he gets on well with President Xi Jinping. "He's for China, I'm for the U.S., but other than that, we love each other." https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-on-chinas-xi-we-love-each-other/

    "US President Donald Trump, in a stunning rebuke of the US intelligence community, declined on Monday to endorse the US government’s assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, saying he doesn’t “see any reason why” Russia would be responsible."

    “I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today,” Trump said during a joint news conference after he spent about two hours in a room alone with Putin." https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/index.html

    "Former President Donald Trump praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's moves in Ukraine, calling him "savvy," after the Kremlin recognized the independence of two breakaway, Russian separatist-controlled regions in eastern Ukraine. "I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion ... of Ukraine, Putin declares it as independent," Trump said. https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082...amid-new-escalations-on-russia-ukraine-border

    So, who helped Trump become President?

    Donald Trump is the current leader of the Republican Party. Little wonder as to why the forum's Republicans continue their silence.
     
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    Liberals talking about the only Republican currently running for the next election year . . . is a deflection from the election year? You guys are as hilarious as you are desperate.
     
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    CNN reports, "The continuing drama surrounding Republican Rep. George Santos of New York, whose self-constructed identity of lies is being dismantled piece by piece by journalists, is an irresistible spectacle — an odd concoction of amusing and infuriating.

    "But there’s one particularly disturbing aspect that points to a dangerous weakness in American democracy: Who paid for Santos’ election campaign? In other words, who has the most influence over the congressman?

    "The fact that it is so difficult to track down the source of this fantasist’s support reaffirms something that democracy funding experts have been telling us for years: Corrupt players are taking advantage of how democracy is financed in America.

    The same could be said for Donald Trump. He came from nowhere to win the Presidency in 2016, and he is trying again in 2024.

    This becomes even more important when one realizes Trump, as President, idolized the Russian dictator, Vladimir Putin, and the communist Chinese President, Xi Jinping. Putin aided the Trump campaign in 2016 by interfering in the Presidential election, according to American intelligence and the Republican Senate committee on intelligence.

    "Our relationship with China has now probably never, ever been better," Trump said, adding that he gets on well with President Xi Jinping. "He's for China, I'm for the U.S., but other than that, we love each other." https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-on-chinas-xi-we-love-each-other/

    "US President Donald Trump, in a stunning rebuke of the US intelligence community, declined on Monday to endorse the US government’s assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election, saying he doesn’t “see any reason why” Russia would be responsible."

    “I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today,” Trump said during a joint news conference after he spent about two hours in a room alone with Putin." https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-putin-helsinki-summit/index.html

    "Former President Donald Trump praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's moves in Ukraine, calling him "savvy," after the Kremlin recognized the independence of two breakaway, Russian separatist-controlled regions in eastern Ukraine. "I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion ... of Ukraine, Putin declares it as independent," Trump said. https://www.npr.org/2022/02/22/1082...amid-new-escalations-on-russia-ukraine-border

    So, who helped Trump become President?

    Donald Trump is the current leader of the Republican Party. Little wonder as to why the forum's Republicans continue their silence.
     
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    :boo:~ DO NOT BE SURPRISED ... if and when Uncle Joe and Krazy Kamala are "reelected " to the Big House ( :shh: we don't say White anymore )
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    Biden could play himself in a saturday night live skit, and wouldn't need to change a thing. At least there, it could be comedy instead of corruption.
     
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    I would love to see all Trump's transcripts too, Russia, China, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia
     
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    Here is Ukraine's... Mexico's was already leaked.. checked in your fake WaPo and fake CNN articles... I am sure one of their """people familiar with the issue and anonymous sources, unidentified people familiar with the people involved, and a U.S. official familiar with the matter.....coming from a fake news source (maybe CNN, maybe not) with extremely well-placed
    unnamed sources..."" has one they can tell you what was in it, but can't let you see it..

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-phone-call-transcript-text-pdf-1510770
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/

    Feel free to show us your Biden transcripts now...
     
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    I was to see them all, Feel free to show us your Trump's transcripts now...
     
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    The joke of a president Biden claiming... ""Tells Blacks That White People Still Want to Lynch Them""



     
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    What I find interesting is around July 2022, the talk was of a red wave, the GOP gaining 40 house seats, 5 senate seats along with some governors. What happened? It seems somehow the Democrats were able to shift the midterm from being a referendum on Biden and company to a referendum on Trump. End results as the Democrats gained a senate seat, gained 2 governorships while losing 9 house seats.


    Let’s compare, midterm a referendum on Biden and company, gain of 40 house seats expected. Democrats turning the election to a referendum on Trump, GOP gain of 9 seats, a 31-seat difference. Same for the senate, referendum on Biden and company, the Republicans expected a gain of 5 seats, after the democrats made the midterm a referendum on Trump, the Republicans lost a seat, that a -6 senate seats from what was expected by the GOP. Governorships, the GOP expected to gain at least 4, after making the midterm a referendum on Trump instead of Biden, the Democrats gain 2 governorships. -6 on governors from a referendum on Biden and company to a referendum on Trump.


    I don’t know how the Democrats were able to switch referendums from themselves to Trump, but they did it with a lot of help from Trump and his choice of very poor-quality candidates which most lost in the general election. It seems the Democrats have been able to make 2018, 2020 and 2022 a referendum on Trump. I wonder if they can do so again in 2024. Time will tell.
     
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    The Republicans won the House.... it is really that simple...
     

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