Trump: We’re going to win this war on Christmas

Christmas in on the 25th

why would Jews celebrate the circumcision of Jesus? the first day Jesus supposedly shed blood for humanity?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_the_Circumcision_of_Christ

"The Feast of the Circumcision of Christ is a Christian celebration of the circumcision of Jesus"

 

Jesus was a jew. born and raised.

 

True, if Jesus = God, then the Jewish God = Jesus

 

And there you have the war on Christmas. As I said earlier I would not immigrate to an islamic country and demand Christian symbols be put next to Islamic ones and when people immigrate here I expect the same respect for our culture and traditions.

 

I really shouldn't have said anti-Christian. Even though this is a small example, its one of many 'anti-American-Christian-culture' sentiments. (Yes, I just invented that term!) American culture is influenced more than some people would like to admit by the country's Christian heritage. Christmas IS the traditional American holiday and it wouldn't exist without Christianity. Other holidays are fine for people to celebrate in America, but they are nothing compared to Christmas, just like Christmas is nothing compared to the holidays in other countries. People can choose to ignore Christmas, but they can't ignore its place within American culture.

I'm a Christian and I too have no idea why any Christian would be so sensitive as to be offended when someone tells them Happy Holidays.

 

sounds like a war on other religions, not a war on Christmas, as I said, the secular holiday Christmas is celebrated by many religions or even those without religions

we are not a Christian nation, we are a secular nation, one with religious freedom for all

your free to celebrate it however you want, there is no war on Christmas

 

Agreed. But is it going to make any difference to people who don't celebrate Christmas?

Why, who else would be complaining about the fake war on Christmas?

 

your from Australia, so maybe you don't understand, there is a secular federal holiday known as Christmas that most Americans celebrate, Christian or not, Christians add a dash of religion to it, non-Christians do not, to each their own

 

When anti Christmas groups go to the supreme Court to get rid of Christmas decorations on public property there is indeed a war on Christmas. When anti Christmas people complain about businesses saying merry Christmas there is indeed a war on Christmas. Now we have a president that says Merry Christmas and will put it on his Christmas cards which is something Obama never did. It's symbolic but important and the anti Christmas crowd will just have to suck it up.

 

they go to court as they were denied the right to put up their religious decorations next to other religious decorations - this is tax payer funded, so they have as much right to place their religious propaganda there as anyone else, usually they win, then the Christians decide to remove all religious decoration rather then share the space, though in some cases they choose to share too

being anti-secular Christmas would never win in court, it's adding religion to it were the conflicts happen

people and business are free to do as they wish, most want want customers of all faiths so they try to remain secular and not endorse any one religion over another.. thus "Happy Holidays", except on Christmas eve and Christmas day

 

\Oh for god's sakes..... what a warped, twisted statement.... NO one said it helps them NOT celebrate...(WTF)


THEY may have holidays around the same time.


I did note that you think there are no holidays but Christmas so now I know what I'm up against....

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
You are deliberately misunderstanding...(I hope it's that and not totally incapable of understanding)


A nativity scene is RELIGIOUS.....if it is on PUBLIC property that is RELIGION using PUBLIC property.


You: ""Using your standards tax payer dollars can't be used for anything that anyone disagrees with.""

NOT if it's RELIGIOUS, (look up the word.)

If that's what you got from the post of mine you quoted I can understand why you're so confused and think Christians own the United States


The "war" to keep religion out of government was over a long time ago and you lost

 

And nothing else is considered to be the Christmas season in the states? People in Australia start putting up lights in November! Shops begin their Christmas advertising at the same time! I'm only assuming the same is true in the US.

Haha. Yeah, I definitely didn't know about that! You didn't mention "Christ" earlier, just "feast of the circumcision." This is not celebrated within my denomination (branch) of Christianity.

 

we have winter decorations up all winter, many Christmas ones too, just not religious in nature, there is a difference - most Americans celebrate Christmas, but like I do not wish someone happy Thanksgiving all through November, I do not wish Merry Christmas all through december

 

Oh, its actually OFFICIALLY secular is it? By what means?

LOL. Pathetic argument! Non-Christian's don't NEED to add religion to it for Christmas to have its meaningful cultural significance! Christmas is MUCH bigger than that! It's not going to let non-Christians to take away from what it means to American heritage and culture! Do you want to try again?

 

it's a secular federal holiday here in the USA as well as a Christian Holiday

if it was not secular it would violate the Constitution to make it a federal holiday

America reinvented Christmas, it used to be a drunken adult holiday, not the holiday it is today

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1999/12/07/loc_judge_invokes_santa.html

Christmas has become so secular that the government does not violate the Constitution by declaring it a federal legal holiday, a federal judge ruled Monday.

"no reasonable person would see the federal holiday as an endorsement of Christianity"

 

Out of government is fine with me. That never was a battle.

 

Christians stole the holiday from Pagans and now it's become a holiday for everyone, religious or not, so guess you will have to try again

 

Yeah, okay. Maybe there's something in it, but I just don't see the significance of it. If people who don't celebrate Christmas were told Happy Christmas, I just don't think they'd be complaining. I think they'd accept it because they know that Christmas is the traditional American holiday, walk out of the store and continue on with their life. And holiday.

I thought that the person I asked that to was saying that there are other holidays which overlap with Christmas.

 

Oh, you mean in terms of the date? What does this have to do with the meaning of Christmas? Try again. And do you think that it was a holiday when the pagans had it?

 

that was in reply to your response that non-Christians could not celebrate Christians without religion

the meaning of Christmas is different to different people, most American children will say Santa tis the reason

 

again, they do, if you say merry Christmas to a clerk, they have no issue with it, the clerks here usually only say Merry Christmas on Christmas eve and Christmas day

most people understand happy holidays applies to their holiday too and don't complain, and then walk out of the store and continue on their day

 

I'm against using taxpayer-funded property to promote one religion over any other. It is a fairly standard position. Either have it as a space that anyone can use or do not use it to promote any religion at all. Just don't play favorites.

 

if the land is tax payer funded, that is tax payer money, if they open it to one, they have to open it to all

if it's private land, do whatever you want within code, for example gated communities may have some limits, but you agreed to those when moving in, ect....

 

75% of America is Christian and having Christmas displays on public property represents nothing more than a joyful season for the vast majority of Americans.