Trump's Economic Proposals Are Incoherent

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  1. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

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    . Nope I'm saying they were campaign promises.
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    The advantage of supporting a pathological liar is that you can always argue that he lied and nobody will doubt that he did.[/QUOTE] You lost, get over it it. Stop whining.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope you're right and that they are only campaign promises, and not reality. Otherwise we're in for some bad bad four years. I've hear many people say that they voted for Trump because of the inflation. Absolute ignorance. But if Trump actually carries out his campaign promises, they will learn what inflation REALLY is.
     
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    Given the last four years of inflation, open borders, sky rocketing debt and a meandering foreign policy I'll gladly give Trump a chance. If all he does is return us to the inflation, border security, debt and foreign policy he gave us in his first administration it will be progress.

    But I'm pretty sure his experience the first time has made him a better president for this time.
    In any case, we will see.

    You really do need to find a quiet place to compose yourself. I am concerned you are going to have a stroke or heart attack worrying about coulda, woulda, shoulda.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Four years is right! Now... who was the President four years ago today that got us into this mess? Oh... I remember... it was Trump!

    You have perfectly illustrated what I mean when I said that many voters went for Trump out of pure ignorance. Those are voters who believe that a President does things by just... existing.... And not by the actual policies that they enact.
     
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    Why do you continue promoting nonsense? Four erroneous claims in one sentence!
    It was higher in the late 1970s--that's the "modern day" record. Here is from 2022.

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    It was worldwide, period.

    I can't figure out if you believe the stuff you pump out. You are WRONG about many economic issues.
    No.
    Yes, they're back down
    Trump three years before covid were nothing special.

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    Investors have done well. We don't need a tax cut.
    Investors often take their money overseas. Most of my money is outside the U.S. Yours?
    Government has to regulate markets. When they don't...

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    What I want the Orange Oaf to do, too. I've explained it many times.
     
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    Worldwide inflation. You have los of low-info MAGA voters who blame Biden. Ain't his fault.
    We don't have "open borders."
    Trump's plan will make things worse.
    And what is the Orange Jackass starts a trade war?
    He's off to a bad start.
    Smug nonsense.
     
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  7. Shutcie

    Shutcie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excellent!
    You blame Trump for Brandon's failures.
    Just claiming it doesn't make it so, does it?
    Facts don't agree with you, golem.
    Current Inflation Rate 2024 Us - Lorna Rebecca
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    You just made one BIG four in one. Each one of mine the fact.

    Nope that is 55 years ago.

    Yes because stupid liberal economic policies are not limited to American Democrats and thos countires tie their currency to ours.


    You are the one that does not understand economics not me.

    And would not have under a Harris administration.
    Not to where they were under Trump.

    Trump three years before covid were nothing special.

    We need to lock in the Trump rates and get CapGains back to Bush43 rates which produced record revenues.

    Nope.
    Why do you want tax cuts for others but not me? How does that help the economy?
    Government has to regulate markets. When they don't...

    Which is what?
     
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    Look at your own graph!!

    You don't just create inflation by simply... existing. You DO something. And Trump DID. He mishandled the economy for 3 years, and then mishandled the pandemic in his last year. You PERFECTLY illustrate what I mean by "pure ignorance"
     
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  10. Bullseye

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    sorry, I assumed you were smart enough and experienced enough to know candidates rarely manage to get many of their campaign promises passed into law. After all every promise has to get through both houses even though roughly have the members oppose most of what he stands for.

    Nonsense. Kamala's spendatopia and tax-the-richatopia would have done far more damage.
     
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    do you support fracking?
     
  12. Shutcie

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    Inflation took off during Brandon's administration, not Trumps.

    And this inflation was driven by government spending, wasn't it?

    The facts do not support your assertion.
     
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    yeah, a guy i shared a target with at a national archery event lives in Ohio but often works in Texas. He's an expert on it. Explained it to me. sounds good
     
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  14. LangleyMan

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    What you said:

    "He did better even with the Rep Congress getting things turned around under Obama helping him out after he and the Dems had the worst economic recovery in modern history but then Biden took that hat when he stymied the Trump recovery he inherited and gave us a technical recession and the Bidenflation."​

    You ignored my comments.

    Wage growth was nothing special during Trump's first three years.

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    I’m sure he gave you all the pros but did he tell you the cons?
     
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    When middle-class citizens of any country get so frustrated and fatigued with political parties that are unwilling to do anything of benefit for them -- the actual TAXPAYERS -- then, in desperation, they'll be moved to try something else... ANYTHING else.

    I look at the U. S. today and, more and more, I see a repetition of what happened to the Weimar Republic in Germany in the early 1930's. "Hyperliberalism" reached its zenith under a German Communist Party leader named Ernst Thälmann. "Hypernationalism" culminated in someone more familiar to most of you... Adolf Hitler! And BOTH of them were demagogues! What kind of choice was THAT for Germans back then?

    Fast-forward to the U. S. in 2024. We had a choice between a completely incompetent, 'woke' nothingness like Kammy Harris -- or -- a mercurial, bewilderingly unpredictable 'raging bull' like Donald Trump! What kind of choice was THAT for us today...?!

    [​IMG]."Remember, Donnie -- 'talking-the-talk' is more fun than 'walking' it!"
     
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    Yes. But we don't know which ones they will or won't pass after they tried. You knew THIS one will not happen even BEFORE the inauguration. Unequivocal sign that you supported a demagogue...
     
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    Yes. Almost to inauguration day. To any moderately intelligent person (who is not part of some cult) that means that it took off because of something that happened BEFORE inauguration day.
     
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    Upsetting environmentalist whack jobs was a plus in my book
     
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    we're sort of hoping that Trump ends of being all those things the hysterical left claimed he would be.
    UNLEASH THE MAR-A-LAGO INQUISITION!!!!
     
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    What reached its zenith was the Great Depression. In a country that was already in crisis after losing World War I. Desperation was a road to fascism. But they didn't know better. WE should have known better. We have no excuse.

    This is exactly the reason why the number one enemy of fascist dictators is education. This is why they attack teachers, universities, ban books, attack any press that they don't control... .anything that would make people more informed. That's what you can expect over the next four years. It won't succeed... but it will do great great lasting harm to our country.

    BTW, comparing being aware of ethnic inequality and of gender oppression (i.e. woke) to the desperate social conditions during the Windmark Republic, is.... well.... I can say "absurd" in this forum... But the more appropriate word might get my post deleted. There was no food, turned away by any neighboring country that was in a better shape... They had no money for this anti-woke nonsense you made up. There were few places to find work. But a typical job would pay 100 marks per month. And the exchange rate came to be 4,210,500,000,000 marks to a dollar.

    It's a good thing that you study Germany in the 1930s. Because, at least the first part (not the gas chambers part) might be comparable to what we'll see in the next four years. But you still have a long way to go. And you will need to do your research without this idiot bias (for heaven's sake..."woke"? Gimme a break!) that MAGAs somehow managed to insert into your mind.
     
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    What is that? Are you saying that Trump is going to put on trial any of his enemies despite having NO evidence that they committed any crime?

    I shall keep in mind that you believe they are innocent. And that you CELEBRATE this....

    I will be happy to remind you of your disdain for due process of law at every time I have the opportunity.
     
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    anything as long as you win right ?
     
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    why not-it was the dems' mantra

    remember this? :)
     
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    Which is why Warren Buffett is cashing in his stocks in anticipation of the Trump crash.
     

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