The "let's roll" forums have been touted here as a free flowing font of truth. What do they actively endorse? No planes at any of the crash sites. No jumpers from the towers. No people present in the WTC: the towers were empty. Can the local truthers back up these claims with facts, or are they willing to label LRF for what it really is? Discuss.
Let's Roll nugget of the day: The debris from the WTC was planted before the collapse. Is this the 'truth' you endorse?
I saw what a free flowing font of truth they were when they threatened to ban me for posting an opinion contrary to theirs,and then when they finally banned me putting a note up when I tried to log on, 'Member has been banned,No reason given'
They think there were jumpers, just not live human beings. They believe that what the majority of us saw on television or on Youtube clips were mannequins. More specifically, ballistic galatin dummies from the alleged Israeli art students who occupied the 91st floor of the North Tower.
I am not doubting that is what they believe, but geeze, how hard is it to check the occupancy list of the north tower? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tenants_in_One_World_Trade_Center American Bureau of Shipping doesn't sound like a mannequin manufacturer. BTW, many of the firefighters witnessed up close the bodies of the jumpers since many jumped before the South tower came down. You would think they would have noticed they were ballistic gelatin instead of flesh and bone. I know you're only reporting what they believe. I'm just pointing out the idiocy.
And what do YOU think, Jango? What do YOU believe? I don't post over there but have read a few things. Like crazy Phil jumping all over your case for asking a few questions that challenged the lunatic rantings that pass for theories over there. Oh, and let's not forget about the smoke generators that were installed as well. To say they are bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy would be giving them too much credit.
Personally, I like Wikipedia, but we both know that it isn't a credible source. I've looked into the art student thing. They were a legit operation at the WTC. Now. Whether or not they were throwing ballistic dummies out of the windows, well, I am kind of up in the air.
Really? The truther story I found is that they were a bunch of Israeli art students camping out on the 90th floor. Now you're sasying they were a legit operation? How about showing us a credible source. BTW, just claiming Wikipedia is not a reliable source doesn't cut it. The site cites their references. Is CNN credible? http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/tenants1.html This list backs up Wikipedia.
Kind of up in the air? Have you not seen the clips of people climbing out and jumping? Apparently, not only were they manniquins, they were remote controlled robots. Everything was remote controlled on 9/11 it appears. I suspect the R/C Lobby is behind the Truth movement.
This is what boggles my mind. How some people can pretend to be "up in the air" about something like that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9QN3AkydYY Warning, this is graphic and hard to watch. Go to the 2:55 mark. Tell me you are "up in the air" about whether or not those are mannequins. Go to the 4:55 mark. Tell me that is ballistic gelatin on the ground and not a body. Go to the 5:50 mark. Tell me how the Israelis are throwing that many bodies out the window at the same time. Go to 6:55 and you will see what NAB is talking about. Is that a mannequin climbing out and then letting go? Jango, you wanted to know why others and myself hang out here exposing truthers for the (*)(*)(*)(*) they are? This is why. Truthers mock the victims of 9/11. They try to diminish the fact it was people who died in order to push their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) agendas. They are so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ignorant that they don't even understand what they are doing. What truthers do is wrong. Someone needs to stand up and show everyone just how wrong and inhuman they really are. You can pretend to be "up in the air" about it. That is your right. It is my right to show there is nothing to be "up in the air" about.
Of course I have seen those video clips. Just about everyone has. I'm not disputing that there weren't jumpers. Not at all. I know that people were forced to make some tough choices. I feel a sense of outrage when people criticize the jumpers for "committing suicide". I couldn't imagine what they went through. To have survived and then be faced with making a decision like that is beyond comprehension. Regarding the Art Students, I was operating under the guise that they were the tenants of the ninetieth something floor in whatever building, and because of their previous actions, like removing a window and installing a platform outside of it to moon a helicopter so it could take pictures, that they would have the audacity to throw some of their dummies out of the window. They seem to be pranksters. Yes. I know that sounds weird. People believe in all sorts of things. Like an all-loving infinitely wise being in the sky that will grant good human beings with ever lasting peace in eternal slumber so long as they believe in Him, and do as He says in His book. I hope that you can take my word when I say: I am not trying to detract from any of the victims on 9/11.
