Tucker Carlson starts to divulge the Capitol video tapes

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    "when she and the Senate Majority leader requested the guard".... interesting.... please show us the "prior" when Pelosi she and the Senate Majority leader requested the guard... that is something no one has ever seen.. the guard has to be requested by the CP and then authorized... No president can just send in the "stormtroopers" (per Pelosi)... she already did not like them present at other times, so it turned around and bit her as in the previous letter before..

    But boy would ya'll had a field day if Trump sent the military onto Capitol grounds before hand.... MILITARY COUP, MILITARY COUP...

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    Funny the very lady who knew it was going to happen did nothing to stop it from happening before it did..

    All the Capitol Police and overseers Pelosi and ilk had to do is provide adequate security after the forewarning and the guards being authorized... How strange Pelosi herself said she knew that trespassing on the Capitol was going to happen.... and she did not take action with that knowledge?
    Pelosi literally said she "I've been waiting for this. trespassing on Capitol grounds" during her strange photo shoot by her daughter.... that is a very odd comment for someone who did not take actions to prevent it....

    ff to 0:15

     
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    Other than reporting official govt narratives, what delusional conspiracy myths did CNN perpetuate?

    Voter suppression is a key part of their effort because, by and large, Democratic presidential candidates have been the most popular among voters. And one would expect this considering the widening income gap would disfavor Republican congressional & presidential candidates. Hillary lost against Trump, but still garnered more of the popular vote. Except for Bush Jr in 2004, 1988 was the last time a Republican president won the most popular votes. Voter suppression has become the only means by which the do-nothing, ultra-corporate GOP can hope to win. Recall Flynn's proposal to establish martial law so that voting machines could be confiscated, and the GOP's desire to install 'election monitors'.

    Just a sampling.

    Report shows the extent of Republican efforts to sabotage democracy
    Research identifies at least 262 bills were introduced in 41 states this year with the intent to hijack the election process
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/23/voter-suppression-election-interference-republicans

    In SCOTUS Arguments, Republicans Admit Voter Suppression Laws Like HB 531 Are About Preventing “A Competitive Disadvantage…To Democrats”
    https://fairfight.com/in-scotus-arg...ting-a-competitive-disadvantage-to-democrats/

    Republican Party is waging a nationwide assault on voting rights
    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/...-waging-a-nationwide-assault-on-voting-rights

    Republicans Want to Stop You From Voting. Here’s How to Fight Back
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...ter-suppression-midterm-elections-1234620519/

    Republicans Now Just Admitting They Want Fewer Americans To Vote
    As Trump and his GOP allies battle Democratic proposals to make voting safer in the age of coronavirus, they’re being open about how increased turnout could hurt them at the ballot box.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...t-admitting-they-want-fewer-americans-to-vote

    Stacking the deck: How the GOP works to suppress minority voting
    When Wisconsin tried to hold a presidential primary election during the pandemic, Milwaukee officials opened just five polling places for the entire city. One study said that difficult access and long lines reduced turnout by more than 8% — and more than 10% for Black voters.
    https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/2...ow-the-gop-works-to-suppress-minority-voting/

    Voter purges: are Republicans trying to rig the 2020 election?
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/31/voter-purges-republicans-2020-elections-trump

    Georgia purge removes nearly 309,000 voter registrations
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/georgia-purge-removes-nearly-309000-voter-registrations

    Direct democracy on national policies - without representation.

    Of course Tucker would choose not to mention Belgium & Germany's (ie, white colonialism) role in the entire Rwandan genocide. Like I've said before, where white culture goes, destruction follows.

    From wiki:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide

    Although Hutu and Tutsi were often treated differently, they shared the same language and culture, the same clan names, and the same customs; the symbols of kingship served as a unifying bond between them.

    Rwanda and neighbouring Burundi were assigned to Germany by the Berlin Conference of 1884, and Germany established a presence in the country in 1897 with the formation of an alliance with the king. German policy was to rule the country through the Rwandan monarchy; this system had the added benefit of enabling colonization with small European troop numbers. The colonists favoured the Tutsi over the Hutu when assigning administrative roles, believing them to be migrants from Ethiopia and racially superior. The Rwandan king welcomed the Germans, using their military strength to widen his rule. Belgian forces took control of Rwanda and Burundi in 1917 during World War I, and from 1926 began a policy of more direct colonial rule. The Belgians modernised the Rwandan economy, but Tutsi supremacy remained, leaving the Hutu disenfranchised.

    In the early 1930s, Belgium introduced a permanent division of the population by classifying Rwandans into three ethnic (ethno-racial) groups, with the Hutu representing about 84% of the population, the Tutsi about 15%, and the Twa about 1%. Compulsory identity cards were issued labeling (under the heading for "ethnicity and race") each individual as either Tutsi, Hutu, Twa, or Naturalised. While it had previously been possible for particularly wealthy Hutus to become honorary Tutsis, the identity cards prevented any further movement between the groups and made socio-economic groups into rigid ethnic groups.

    The ethnic identities of the Hutu and Tutsi were reshaped and mythologized by the colonizers. Christian missionaries promoted the theory about the "Hamitic" origins of the kingdom, and referred to the distinctively Ethiopian features and hence, foreign origins, of the Tutsi "caste". These mythologies provide the basis for anti-Tutsi propaganda in 1994.


    As far as Reid & Cross, I don't care what they say. They and Tucker are two sides of the same coin.

    But we should consider the following: Various forms of discrimination & systemic (institutional & structural) racism would, logically, still exist to some degree because the Civil Rights Act was passed & segregation ended only 59 years ago - and white people own most of the businesses in the country, most of the land, most of the wealth, and the top echelon of the elites (the trillionaire banking families) are all white. Basically, America is owned & run by white people according to white culture. So what would one expect after such a long period of slavery & segregation? Can we expect that somehow the Civil Rights Act made all the discrimination & racism just go away?

    Here, learn a little about the different forms & history of racism in America.

    https://www.aclrc.com/forms-of-racism

    Set straight by whom? The truth about Sicknick was known long before Tucker's rant.

    Even CNN, which initially got the story wrong, corrected themselves in April of 2021, as did all the major news outlets during the same month.

    Sicknick death ruled ‘natural’ but experts say stress can set off strokes
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/health/sicknick-death-natural-strokes/index.html

    Tucker also downplayed the role the violent altercations may have had on Sicknick's stroke - an issue the Capitol Police chief addressed.

    Capitol Police chief tears into Tucker Carlson for claims about Officer Brian Sicknick
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...arlson-claims-officer-brian-sicknic-rcna73813
     
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    The central figure always knows. Why? Because the central figure is critical to the success of the conspiracy/agenda. Common sense.

    Yeah. We just have no clue what Trump really wanted. LOL

    And his J6 rally was simply a farewell to his supporters. LOL

    'NO' president is interested in that? Are you certain?

    Not Trump, but his inner circle of much smarter & better educated loyalists would be. These lawmakers, attorneys, advisors, and ex-military men are his brains.

    I already answered that in my next line, which you concurred with.

    I said: "Keep in mind, these people live in a make-believe world and feed off of one another's delusions. They obviously didn't know how the political system worked, but that didn't stop them."

    If you knew just how idiotic he was, you wouldn't have asked me the question above.

    But more than that, Trump's delusions & idiocy contaminates his loyal supporters to the point they themselves adopt the same delusions & idiocy.

    Check out these fake focus group sessions with real Trump supporters. See how willing they are to give a nod to any crazy idea as long as it's coming from Trump. They're worth watching just for the humor alone. Take a look.

    https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

    https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=Qyx5j6i98kw

    Nope. Never been done, so no one really knows how it would've turned out had Pence done Trump's bidding.

    No. Of course he didn't. Flynn hung out with right-wing militant groups to have tea & crumpets and exchange crochet patterns. LOL

    Right. Trump & his closest ally, pardon recipient, and martial law proponent had no contact with one another prior to J6. It's purely coincidental that Trump's lame duck rally and the armed & ready-for-battle MAGA mob happened to meet on the very same day.

    Trump knew very well he had lost. He just couldn't stomach it, because, like I said, he's psychologically damaged & a dictator. Hence there was no seeking 'justice' on his part because he had no intention of serving only a 2nd term and no more. He wanted to remain in office forever - and still does. You obviously are clueless about this man's mental state. Mary Trump was spot on in her book about him.

    Perhaps you recall this tweet from 3 years ago? It says it all.

    https://www.facebook.com/Fox32Chica...-after-impeachment-acquittal/184318599297133/
     
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    True. That's a good call.
     
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    Can't get anything going on Joe, so you're still desperate to find some dirt on Hunter, eh? Give it up dude.
     
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    Coming to a theater near you..... Comer's investigation into crime boss Joe Biden.... the show is just beginning..... "dude"... there are to many examples of the Biden family shady business dealing to count...

    Chew on this one... Monkey Island....
     
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    We don't know if Babbitt saw the cop or not, but that doesn't matter because she was warned repeatedly about him.

    What difference does it make whether Babbitt had to climb over furniture or not? Couldn't she see she wasn't authorized to be there in the first place, let alone the building? Her comrades should've been smart enough too not to test scared cops (we've seen how that's played out in our country over the years). If her comrades cared enough for Babbitt, they would've pulled her back in.

    Byrd's duty was to protect lawmakers & staff at the Capitol, and lawmakers were still in that area when Babbitt climbed through. Byrd did what he was trained to do - period!
     
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    But absolutely NONE on Trump, right? LOL
     
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    Your logic is ludicrous. That's like saying a robber is innocent & would've still been alive had the home owner (who shot the robber) installed better security around his house. In your world, all bank robbers would also be innocent I guess.

    Had Babbitt stayed on the outside of the Capitol, she would've still been alive. And no doubt her family wishes she had. Chew on that.

    By the way, that fence in the pic wouldn't have kept anyone out. My grandmother could scale that thing! The mob would've created a hole, collapsed the fence, and/or climbed over in no time. No one expected the mob to do what they did, which is why they weren't better prepared.
     
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    And it is all the result of the lack of security which is the job of the Capitol Police and overseers Pelosi and ilk... it was their job to provide security for the Capitol that day and all days... they had a budget as big as most large cities..... non lethal weapons were available but Michael Byrd chose to murder Ashli Babbitt with his handgun while springing from his hidden crouched ambush position... the blood of Ashli Babbitt is on the hands of those folks...



    https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/oversight

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    Security at the Capitol has been sufficient for generations, and there have been no problems. Why haven't I heard you warning about the lack of security at the Capitol at any time before Jan 6 happened? Could it be that no one expected the mob to become violent?

    Babbitt was foolish to break into a building she was unauthorized to enter, and even more foolish to break into a govt building. It's unfortunate for her family, but it was completely preventable had she simply stayed outside.

    Rather than blame Byrd, Pelosi, or the Capitol Police, you should be blaming Trump. Trump sees his MAGA loyalists as nothing but stupid cannon fodder - there to do his bidding, even if it means his minions end up in prison, or results in their death.
     
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    Soooo, where are all these revelations? We got one video about one person - where are all the others?
     
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    Why hasn’t Tuckums aired this?
     
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    Yeah being “punched” by an 80+ plus year old year old petite woman is such a huge threat…….
     
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    I will leave you to your speculation and conspiracy theory.

    And you think that those people told Trump that following the letter of the law & the Constitution will not put him back into the president's seat?

    Yes, so they are deluded. So then why are you so certain that there is no possible way that they would've believed that it was possible to achieve with NON-force? Either they were thinking clearly or they were not. You seem to want to have it both ways.

    Pretty funny.

    You seem to think that such groups never protest peacefully, but only ever gun people down during their protests.

    Oh I'm sure that they had contact. But I don't see why Flynn being a martial law proponent makes it more likely that they communicated.

    What were they armed with? It's my understanding that there were barely any firearms involved on January 6.

    Yes, obviously he knows that he lost, even though I think that he sometimes says that he "won."
    But he mainly says that the election was stolen, which is actually really an admission that he lost, but just unjustly so in his mind.

    No. Can you name any who DID?
     
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    Oh, that would be the 'Russiagate' FARCE.

    Voter suppression is a conspiracy theory. And you say that the RIGHT are undermining elections with election fraud nonsense, when you are just as bad!

    Good thing that the popular vote means precisely nothing!

    As in, 'poll watchers?'

    Why would Belgium's & Germany's role have been relevant in the point that he was making?

    How is this related to Cross and Reid?

    Tucker amplified it to a huge TV audience who could EASILY have missed the corrections. I mean seriously, how many people do you think corrections reach? 5 maybe?
     
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    Where do you stand on the theory that 5G caused COVID?
     
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    Oh, which GOP politicians broke into government buildings in an attempt to overturn a presidential election & re-install a dictator wannabe, or suppressing voters, or wanting to impose martial law to confiscate voting machines, or wanting to make abortion a capital offense, or trying to impose Christian fundamentalist 'values?' I can't WAIT for your answer! :roflol:

    How does MAGA promote hate and racism? By being tough on borders? :roflol:

    Yes, because Democrats are totally anti-war, anti-defense spending and anti-corporation! :roflol:

    Yes, because it's totally stupid. And I'm not sure that this is limited to MAGA or even to Republicans in general.

    What are these "systemic injustices?"

    Is it actually your opinion that Democrats are "equal opportunity"/equality over 'equity?'

    "Since it became a formal discipline in 1989, its research has shown that American inequities are not just the byproduct of individual prejudices, but of our laws, institutions and culture, in Crenshaw’s words, “not simply a matter of prejudice but a matter of structured disadvantages.”

    Oh, that's interesting. Because the only race that it's legal to discriminate against in law is white people! :roflol:

    Oh, that would be the idea that males can become females and females can become males! :roflol:

    How incredibly telling that you interpret "mutilating kids" as "youth gender surgery!" But you are totally correct of course: mutilating kids is certainly an issue between abusive parents, their vulnerable abused children, and QUACK FREAK healthcare workers.

    "A lack of acceptance of one's gender identity also can be devasting. Compared to non-transgender youth, transgender youth who are not supported by their families are three times more likely to attempt suicide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and have much higher rates of anxiety and depression."

    No source cited. Here, put aside left-wing radical gender ideology for a moment and educate yourself about what really goes on:
    I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle. | The Free Press (thefp.com)

    In other words, NOT doing what companies are supposed to do which is whatever is best for the shareholders.

    So because one conservative froze on this question, this means that the entire right cannot define it? :roflol:

    Uh, the genocide of black people and Jews? Next you'll tell me that the GOP is FOR this! :roflol:

    How does the GOP give them an audience?

    No mention of "right-wing extremist/hate/white supremacy/white nationalist/militia groups."

    Obama would not have asked his supporters to do this, just like Trump didn't. Trump ordered his people to be PEACEFUL. They disobeyed him. So much for them being cult members blindly and loyally following their cult leader! :roflol:

    Your definition in this post of "cult figure" did not include 'inciting blind loyalty & insanity:'
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ol-video-tapes.608839/page-37#post-1074090179

    We were talking about the 2016 election! You can't recall pathetic Clinton supporters crying?

    Oh, so literally ZERO policies?
     
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    Says who?

    The idea is that air support would have remained during the evac process! I never suggest that it should have been removed!

    Yes, and this is what Biden was advised to do, wasn't it?

    Why not? The Trump DOJ initiated the Mueller investigation didn't it?

    Oh, you mean just like Biden essentially called it perfect!

    Well he hasn't been a sitting President for over two years, so why has he not been indicted for this?

    It wasn't Mueller's job to state that Trump did not commit crimes.

    Just like Clinton was impeached but avoided being removed from office because the Democrats controlled the Senate.

    It wasn't Mueller's job to exonerate Trump. It was his job to investigate where there was a conspiracy between Trump and Russia. None found. It's that simple.

    Oh, so no charges then!
     
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    I trust that you saw the reply.
     
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    You're correct obviously, but you're engaging in a conspiracy theory, plain and simple. If it turns out that there is solid evidence that Trump was behind the January 6 violence, I will be the first person to condemn him and call for his imprisonment.

    It turns out that it's not illegal to protest with weapons.

    Ah. You're a mind reader. Great!

    So then if the violence ended up NOT happening, they should have been charged for planning it?

    I can't say either way. I will wait until he is charged.

    Do you think that Trump was behind it?

    Relevance to Trump?

    Of course it was perfectly timed! They were all part of the one protest, both violent and non-violent people!

    How do we know that Trump knew that his election fraud claims were false? Or are you just going by what this opinion journalist says?

    Why the hell would he communicate this to them on national TV?
     
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    Would you say that there are more than two moderate Democrats in Congress?
     
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    Let me ask you this: have you even seen Carlson's report in full?
     
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    It seems as though we have definitely reached the end this time! I thought that it was never gonna end!
     

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