U. of Chi. Professor and "Scientist" Wants to Block Sunlight to Cool Earth

It’s funny these folks don’t care about earthquakes caused by hydroelectric projects and geothermal projects that kill people and destroy stuff. I’ll bet they aren’t even aware it’s happening.

They are more concerned about hypotheticals than actual deaths from current “green” projects

 

@dairyair take a look at this reply and my previous reply. What’s the difference? Notice the dishonesty? The utter lack of objective rationale? THE WASTE, THE CORE, THE WATER is all RADIOACTIVE!!!

 

LOL. Nobody is dying from nuclear power plants. People are dying from hydroelectric projects. In one case over 60,000 people. And you don’t care one bit. You only care about hypotheticals.

Who’s rational? The person who cares about ACTUAL deaths or the one who doesn’t give a **** about actual deaths?

 

More dishonesty. Cancer deaths continue to rise in the world. Many died at Chernobyl. Fukushima hasn’t even started the cleanup of the disastrous mess. RADIATION exposure causes cancer. Small particles can lodge in the tissue of animals, fish, and plants that humans eat. If one is lucky, it will pass through the digestive system Otherwise it’s a crap shoot.

 

What they don't tell you is what to fear.

 

Yes, the 1985 accident killed some people. Somewhere between 60 and 4000 most likely. It’s mostly speculative because there can’t be any baseline established for background radiation and other lifestyle changes that induce cancer.

When people get buried in mud or their house it’s not speculative.

The fact remains, nuclear is responsible for statistically insignificant deaths compared to hydro.

 

Modern society cannot function on wind and solar which have an eROI less than 5.

 

Chernobyl had no containment and used flammable graphite as a moderator. Water cooled reactors (BWR's and PWR's) use liquid water as the moderator. If the water boils the steam losses its moderation capability and nuclear fission effectively stops. There is residual heat stored in the fuel rods which need to be transferred out via the emergency core cooling systems.

 

Most people don’t realize the meltdown occurred because of the techs pulling more rods than specifications called for during a SAFETY TEST. It’s like trying to take the 90° corner at Ash and East First St. at 87 mph in a Jeep CJ 5 and blaming the resulting crash on Goodyear tires failing.

 

Again… SIGH…
Cancer deaths are up worldwide. Fukushima radioactive cooling water is regularly being discharged into the Pacific. More than likely, when it comes to cancers and ingested radioactive particles (something you chose to ignore), death tolls are probably in the millions and millions. Individual cancer causes cannot be proven, but it is proven that radiation exposure causes cancer, and that radioactive particles, both visible and microscopic, can be injected or inhaled. BTW one of the denier’s favorite fuels, DIESEL, a Utopian Warming stalwart, is one of the worst carcinogens on the planet.

 

The grammar is terrible. Must be the combination of trying to make up a BS story along with the blowing smoke. It’s blatantly obvious that you have no idea.

 

Maybe a better argument to cover Chernobyl and Chinese hydro induced deaths would be to say communist countries shouldn’t be trusted with electricity.

 

Coulda Woulda Shoulda. That’s the story of this irresponsible industry.

1. Shoulda have done this, and the disaster wouldn’t have happened.
2. Coulda done this, and it wouldn’t be the most costly energy on the planet.
3. If we woulda done this it wouldn’t have taken 10 years to build, and a billion dollars over- budget.
4. Shoulda done this, and we’d have a place to store the waste.
5. Coulda done this, and our propaganda untruths would be more palatable.

 

LOL. Your opinions are noted. Unfortunately it conflicts with the report by the United Nations. You have been hyping the UN. Now you throwing them under the bus because they don’t share your unsubstantiated opinions?


SMH

Yep diesel sucks. That’s why I intentionally implement practices that cut fuel usage drastically even though it reduces profitability short term.

 

Yes. Human error was the cause but regardless the Chernobyl had no containment and used graphite as a moderator. That’s the recipe for the disaster that ultimately occurred.

 

The grammar is fine as is the description of basic nuclear physics and reactor design.

 

The discharge of water treated to remove all radioactive material except tritium began in 2023. Radiation from tritium (alpha particles) can’t penetrate human skin and is below dilution standards. The tritium will be further diluted in the ocean. Every gallon of water from any natural source (river, lake, ocean) contains radioactive material.

 

Does that apply to the hydroelectric and geothermal generating industry as well? Or just nuclear? Oh shoot. We contributed to an earthquake that killed 60,000 (possibly 90,000). Shoulda not done that.

Please point out the untruths. Or are you being disingenuous AGAIN?

 

It’s not the best design for sure. But I believe there are 8 (maybe less now) still operating safely. As long as specifications and protocols are followed they work pretty well.

 

Failure to mention the discharges of not just radioactive cooling water, but also the highly water soluble radioactive Cesium that has been detected all over the Pacific.
And this is the mantra of the nuclear industry and their political support system - paint false rosy pictures.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ac...mental and health impacts of critical concern.

Assessing the radiation levels of the Fukushima discharge must consider the complexity of the ecological impact. The oceanic dispersion of radionuclides involves many factors, including currents, temperature, salinity, and biological activity, which influence the distribution and fate of these elements in marine environments. (The long-term ecological impact of radionuclide dispersion in the Pacific Ocean is a subject of considerable uncertainty.

 

If you want to change the topic, and cherry pick disastrous events take a look at all the fossil fuel ocean oil spills and massive fires. There’s a major difference between these disasters ( including the Yangtze River dam). First, analysts know what killed the victims. Cancers caused by radiation exposure are not definitive.
Second, released radiation doesn’t go away. It can be around for hundreds of thousands of years, killing people of future generations. Like Climate Change, which is also irreversible, you folks have no problem irreversibly altering the planet.

https://www.iamrenew.com/environment/fossil-fuel-disasters-10-biggest/

Fossil Fuel Disasters - 10 of the Biggest

 

Radioactive cesium is present in all water samples.

 

Radioactive materials are contained in every material in existence.

 

Remember I’m for phasing out fossil fuels. You must be confusing me with someone else. Not interested in strawmen.

So you have no evidence I’ve posted untruths, you just said that because you have no evidence to support your opinions. Got it.

Climate change is irreversible? Who told you that? That may be the most unscientific thing I’ve ever heard from a climate nutter.

It’s amusing you now have thrown the UN under the bus. In the last 24 hours you have accused NASA and USDA of being fossil fuel shills and/or Koch funded organizations. You have accused the Moore foundation of the same. As well as Bill and Melinda Gates. Now you think your unsubstantiated opinion has more merit than a study done by the UN. You’ve even rejected compilations of studies quoted from the IPCC.

I guess your opinions are all that matter. Peer reviewed journals of science like Nature and the Lancet are just full of oil funded garbage. The UN doesn’t know anything about Japan’s nuclear disaster. Bill Gates is funded by the Kochs. NASA can’t be trusted because they get funding from fossil fuel businesses. Thank goodness we have your wild unsubstantiated opinions to go on as nothing else, not even evidence produced through application of the scientific method, has any value when put next to your opinions.

 

More dishonesty! When will you stop??? Man-made radioactive isotopes from Nuclear fission are not found in nature.