UFO's aliens...what are they? Are they demons?????

I see, and you are objective and intellectually honest with no biases?

 

I go where the facts/evidence takes me - even if I may not like where it takes me.

 

And yes, I am biased when it comes to my views on social, environmental and political issues. But I still adhere to facts when it comes to making a determination on what's true. Above all else, I want to know the truth of the matter.

 

That is one of the theories offered. There is circumstantial evidence regarding a portal, something we humans can only speculate about. I think there is direct evidence of magnetic anomalies there. It really is fascinating.

 

There have been numerous UFO claims that we DO understand. And, there are many that are one time reports from individuals that haven't been possible to investigate.

We've had plenty of experience with Big Foot, crop circles, Loch Ness monster sightings, frisbee pictures, etc. to know that humans find reasons to report UFOs of their own manufacture. They work to make debunking difficult.

Debunking their stories is often not possible, and that is NOT EVIDENCE of truth.

 

I don't see where the "government" is taking action against the investigation of UFO reports.

Of course, the military and private enterprise that is working to create systems for the military are not going to divulge what they have done. And, they are not going to divulge what they know about the efforts of the military of other countries. All for obvious reasons. The military is not going to help you much, as they don't share your mission.

If you know of cases where academia has worked to stop others from investigating UFOs, please cite.

 

There certainly are magnetic anomalies in various places, but they are of physical creation.

The idea of a "portal" is totally scifi, is it not?

 

You are not a liar. You are someone interested like me and many others of this phenomena. Lol I am older than you so over protective of people dabbing in hallucinogenics but I get you and what you said and I appreciate this topic and would say to you hey I have so much **** I could tell you that would assure you for me I do not think you are a liar but curious as we all should be. I will leave it at that because I know you know this topic when you bring it up or anyone else will cause some to consider it all nuts. You know why. No worries. Do not worry about what others think of you. Lol when people call me crap on this forum I laugh. I am a big smelly Zionist. Cheers!

 

Yes, but I think Einstein and others have described mathematically something like a portal to other dimensions.

 

I'm a fan of the Skinwalker Ranch series. While it's outside my religion, the lead scientist/investigator who is the former head of the US UFO research, has proposed there may be a traversable wormhole at the ranch, which may explain the weird phenomena being experienced there. Who knows.

 

What I read and hear from theoretical physicists wormholes are a mathematical construct that doesn't break general relativity. But, there isn't any evidence that they exist.

Also, if one existed such that something could enter, there would remain two problems:
- there would be no control over where you would go or how far you would go before being spit out.
- there would be no way back.

 

Where have you been? The govt has been carrying out a disinformation campaign to debunk UFOs since at least the Roswell incident & coverup in 1947. I'll post some links for you to take a look at later on.

Why do you think I would expect the military to 'help' us?

I wouldn't expect the type of govt we have to want to go public with the truth about UFOs, nor to share its cutting edge technology, because unifying the world's people for the sake of peace has never been part of its agenda. The US is an empire, and, as an empire, it would seek out the most advanced tech to ensure it remains militarily superior on the world stage. Advanced alien tech could be used to develop new (particularly aerial) weapons platforms that could be impervious to attack by other nations. This is what they want more than anything - and even, I would suspect, to use it against other alien races (if they could) as a means to dominate off-world territories. (Note that UFO sightings/encounters spiked after we developed & used atomic weapons. This could certainly be a concern for ETs that don't want imperial-minded humans to venture into space with such weapons.)

First, it would be ludicrous to think the Pentagon would set out on an expansive campaign to debunk UFOs - from its own whitewashed pseudo-investigations/studies, to exploiting/infiltrating the media & entertainment industries, and actively suppressing pilot/aviation reports of UFOs, as well as military encounters - without also trying to influence/infiltrate mainstream academia.

With that said, there are many many examples of how academia has been co-opted & heavily influenced by the Pentagon's decades-long agenda of UFO disinformation. I'll post some examples for you later on.

 

Here's one take on the Skinwalker Ranch - which I kind of resonate with, as I haven't yet seen (thus far) much in the way of convincing material evidence (pics/videos/mass sightings/etc.) that have been presented other than stories & media hype. I will admit I haven't seen all the documentaries, but what little I have, I have to admit I'm not impressed.

Skinwalker Transparency and Burden of Proof
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2022/09/skinwalker-transparency-and-burden-of.html

Skinwalker Ranch – Where There's Smoke, There's Mirrors
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2021/12/skinwalker-ranch-where-theres-smoke.html

 

The military is not going to help, because it is not going to divulge what it knows OR what it doesn't know about UFOs.

Either of those is a tipoff on what we can or can not detect. The "Navy Tapes" were easy to debunk and divulged nothing that other countries don't know. The military might give more of that kind of material - what looks like evidence, but isn't.

Remember how our military didn't report Chinese spy balloons cruising over US territory? That lack of reporting wasn't "disinformation". It was national defense. China probably has no idea when or how they were detected by our military - what our military wants.

Yes, academia is interested in science. For a student to earn a PhD in science, the primary requirement is to find an answer to questions that science has not yet figured out. There are measures of whether a question has been answered. There really is very little chance of interviewing individuals and studying crop circles and then answering any question with the certainty required. The "evidence" available is a dead end.

We'll still look for life in the universe, whether life visits us or not. Plus, any UFO from outside our solar system could well be robotic. There are engineers who believe that even today, man could build a self replicating robot that could land on a distant planet manufacture some copies, and then send them in various directions - thus exponentially populating the universe with these robots. Today, these factories would be big and clumsy. But, give us a mere thousand years and it could become an obvious way to explore nearby solar systems.

 

There's just too much material, so I chose several of the more interesting literature on these topics that you brought up to illustrate the seriousness of the govt's campaign to keep the truth of UFOs/aliens hidden from public knowledge.

Of course there's the Roswell incident, but we already know of that coverup, which pretty much ignited the govt's ongoing campaign of UFO disinformation, and which continues to this day. But here is a sampling of other relevant material.

* (comprehensive video) 60 Years of Deception: Inside the US Government's UFO Manipulation Program
https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=awsv66J31S8

* UFOs and the Government: CIA Involvement in UFO Debunking
...the CIA approached Project Blue Book and said it wanted to review the UFO data accumulated since 1947. In mid-January a scientific panel headed by CIA physicist H. P. Robertson briefly reviewed the Air Force material, dismissed it quickly, and went on to its real business: recommending ways American citizens could be discouraged from seeing, reporting, or believing in flying saucers. The Air Force should initiate a "debunking" campaign and enlist the services of celebrities on the unreality of UFOs. Beyond that official police agencies should monitor civilian UFO research groups "because of their potentially great influence on mass thinking. . . . The apparent irresponsibility and the possible use of such groups for subversive purposes should be kept in mind." The panel's existence and its conclusions remained secret for years, but the impact on official UFO policy was enormous. In short order Project Blue Book was downgraded, becoming little more than a public-relations exercise.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/ufo-government6.htm

* The Robertson Panel
The panel recommended that the National Security Council debunk UFO reports and institute a policy of public education to reassure the public of the lack of evidence behind UFOs
NOTE: The late Frederick C. Durant III, who served as an assistant director of the Smithsonian’s National Air and Space Museum for many years, had also worked for the CIA and authored the 1953 Robertson Panel Report, summarizing a group of agency-sponsored scientists’ recommendations that UFOs be secretly debunked and the mass media utilized to achieve that end.
https://bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_robertsonpanel.htm

* The Condon Report - A Whitewash
When the long-awaited Condon Report on Unidentified Flying Objects was issued early this year (1969), it was accompanied by a vitriolic rebuttal. For on that same day Dr. David R. Saunders published his own version of what went on behind the scenes at the University of Colorado, where the project was headquartered under the Directorship of Dr. Edward U. Condon. The Saunders’ "expose" is titled "UFOs? YES" Its subtitle was, "Where The Condon Committee Went Wrong/The Inside Story By An Ex-Member Of The Official Study Group." The article infuriated Dr. Condon and Robert J. Low, Coordinator of the official UFO project.
[...]
Robert Low (its project coordinator) was the author of the now-famous memo. Written before the project got started, it was to present the pro and con arguments on whether or not the University of Colorado should accept an offer from the U.S. Air Force to finance a scientific study on UFOs - when UFO’s were considered by a vast majority of scientists to be a kooky, nonscientific subject. The University, naturally, did not want to have its reputation tarnished in the scientific community. Low’s memo seemed to suggest a way out of the dilemma, the dilemma being that science should help the Government when asked to do so but in the process not give the impression of being unscientific, thereby exposing a particular scientific group to be the laughingstock of all other scientific groups. The memo made its case strong enough so that the University finally decided to take on the UFO project.
The Controversial Memo
“The trick would be, I think, to describe the project so that, to the public, it would appear a totally objective study but, to the scientific community, would present the image of a group of nonbelievers trying their best to be objective but having an almost zero expectation of finding a saucer. One way to do this would be to stress investigation, not of the physical phenomena, but rather of the people who do the observing – the psychology and sociology of persons and groups who report seeing UFO’s. If the emphasis were put here, rather than on examination of the old question of the physical reality of the saucer, I think the scientific community would quickly get the message.
https://bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_condonreport04.htm

See also: The Condon Committee Con Job
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/03/science-and-ufos-part-1the-condon.html

* Prof. James McDonald accuses CIA of world plot to 'debunk' UFOs
NOTE: McDonald was Senior Physicist at the Institute of Atmospheric Physics at the University of Arizona, and who holds the distinction of being one of the very few scientists to actually study the UFO phenomenon.
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2019/01/scientist-accuses-cia-of-world-plot-to-debunk-ufos.html
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP75-00149R000500070003-0.pdf

See also: Science and Ufos: Part 2 - Occam’s Rusty Razor
In a prepared statement before the U.S. Congress’ House Committee on Science and Astronautics, delivered on July 29, 1968, McDonald said this: “From time to time in the history of science, situations have arisen in which a problem of ultimately enormous importance went begging for adequate attention simply because that problem appeared to involve phenomena so far outside the current bounds of scientific knowledge that it was not even regarded as a legitimate subject of serious scientific concern. That is precisely the situation in which the UFO problem now lies. One of the principal results of my own recent intensive study of the UFO enigma is this: I have become convinced that the scientific community, not only in this country but throughout the world, has been casually ignoring as nonsense a matter of extraordinary scientific importance.” McDonald arrived at that opinion after several authorized visits to the U.S. Air Force’s UFO Project Blue Book to review its files. Indignant at what he discovered, he wrote, “There are hundreds of good cases in the Air Force files that should have led to top-level scientific scrutiny of [UFOs] years ago, yet these cases have been swept under the rug in a most disturbing way by Project Blue Book investigators and their consultants.”
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/03/science-and-ufos-part-2-occams-rusty.html

* MJ-12: The Hoax That Quickly Became a Disinformation Operation
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2014/10/mj-12-hoax-that-quickly-became.html

* Ex Navy Scientist Slams CIA UFO Claims
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/01/ex-navy-scientist-slams-cia-ufo-claims.html

* UFO Disinformation Agent Richard Doty is Up to His Old Tricks: Beware the Many Lies He Tells Steven Greer
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2017/11/ufo-disinformation-agent-richard-doty.html

See also: UFO Disinformation Agent Exposed — Fake Alien Invasion Scare Sponsored by Air Force Discredits Ufologist | A Case Study
https://stillnessinthestorm.com/201...00/2930/uncategorized/stillness-in-the-storm/

* Unveiling the Shadows: COINTELPRO Agents and Disinformation Tactics Surrounding the UFO/UAP Phenomenon on Twitter
https://medium.com/@caariufo/unveil...-tactics-surrounding-the-ufo-uap-d8e145091ee9

* Ex-CIA Official Says Stories of Crashed UFOs and Little Gray Men “on Ice” Discussed at a High-Level
In his article, Marchetti theorizes that the primary reason underlying the U.S. government’s refusal to acknowledge the reality of UFOs, if indeed the craft are piloted by alien beings, results from its fear that existing power structures would be fundamentally undermined by such an admission.
He writes:
...the U.S. Government, in collusion with other national powers of the Earth, is determined to keep this information from the general public. The purpose of the international conspiracy is to maintain a workable stability among the nations of the world and for them, in turn, to retain institutional control over their respective populations. Thus, for these governments to admit there are beings from outer space attempting to contact us, beings with mentalities and technological capabilities obviously far superior to ours, could, once fully perceived by the average person, erode the foundations of the Earth's traditional power structure. Political and legal systems, religions, economic and social institutions could all soon become meaningless in the mind of the public. The national oligarchical establishments, even civilization as we know it, could collapse into anarchy. Such extreme conclusions are not necessarily valid, but they probably accurately reflect the fears of the "ruling class" of the major nations, whose leaders (particularly those in the intelligence business) have always advocated excessive governmental secrecy as being necessary to preserve "national security." The real reason for such secrecy is, of course, to keep the public uninformed, misinformed, and, therefore, malleable.
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/02/ex-cia-official-says-stories-of-crashed.html

* Notable whistleblowers & witnesses reveal what they know & the govt's long-running operation of covering up the truth
https://bibliotecapleyades.net/disclosure/disclosure07.htm

* UFO/UAP Scientific Study Group Calls for Transparency
"The Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) calls for transparency from the Biden administration in furtherance of the scientific study of UAP"
The SCU, a data-driven organization of scientists, academics, and research professionals dedicated to conducting and supporting open scientific research into unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), released the following statement: ...
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2023/02/ufouap-scientific-study-group-calls-for.html

* Pilots Ridicule AF Secrecy on Saucers
A group of more than 50 top commercial airline pilots, all veterans of more than 15 years with major companies, yesterday blasted as ‘bordering on the absolute ridiculous’ the Air Force policy of tight censorship, brush-off and denial in regard to unidentified flying objects—flying saucers. One termed the Air Force policy ‘a lesson in lying, intrigue and the Big Brother attitude carried to the ultimate extreme.’ Each of the pilots has sighted at least one UFO, the majority several [my emphasis]...‘ We are ordered to report all UFO sightings,’ said one, ‘but when we do, we are treated like incompetents and told to keep quiet...’ This pilot also pointed to a Joint Chiefs of Staff order giving top radio priority to UFO reports anywhere in the world and specifying that any pilot who fails to maintain absolute secrecy afterwards is subject to a maximum of ten years in jail and a fine of $10,000.’
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxL-uFccQSjomD3MwWvh05FqvhrYuOHKqrN5q69JSo21gR3PEJitSjM0QfZHIwOV-LAK2G8wYF4PV2hlM1onVwOdlaNz5wADvvtT94zk_hboG7uQJJkdRkJrzaa4PqhA-Fu8nJzw/s1600/Pilots+Ridicule+AF+Secrecy+On+Saucers+Newark+Star-Ledger+%28Edit+2%2912-22-1958.png

* Book: The Missing Times: News Media Complicity in the UFO Cover-up
Excerpt: “[There is] new evidence that CBS TV was among the CIA's ‘media assets’ that participated in this covert UFO-debunking program. In 1966, CBS broadcast UFOs: Friend, Foe or Fantasy, narrated by Walter Cronkite, as part of its ‘CBS Reports’ documentary series. Cronkite assured his viewers, using false and misleading information, that all UFO reports were due to mistaken perceptions. In short, there was nothing for the public to worry about, he said. A hand-written letter by Robertson Panel member Dr. Thornton Page, discovered in the Smithsonian's archives by Prof. Michael Swords, confirms the CIA's long-suspected role in the program. In the 1966 letter, Page related to a CIA associate that he ‘helped organize the CBS TV show around the Robertson Panel's conclusions.’”

 

NOTE: The CIA’s infiltration of mainstream news organizations, to serve its own purposes, was first divulged during the U.S. Senate’s Church Committee hearings in 1975, and further exposed by The Washington Post’s Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein two years later.


* How Academia Processes the ET Contact Issue, and Some Implications for the UFO Community
Right from the post-Roswell initiation of the US National Security state, the various actors tasked with shaping and steering the public response to the issue were aware of what needed to be done to keep the issue of visiting intelligences under control. In the mid 1960s, academic at Colorado University Robert Low issued a memo related to his involvement with the forthcoming Condon Report stating: “The trick would be, I think, to describe the project so that, to the public, it would appear a totally objective study but, to the scientific community, would present the image of a group of non-believers trying their best to be objective but having an almost zero expectation of finding a saucer." This careful and covert steering of the Condon Committee was not an isolated direction - several other committees and reports were infiltrated so as to ensure a firm grasp of the perception of the wider exopolitical issues. This policy was made even more effective as we progressed through the post-war decades by a complicit media. Great Britain used its D-Notice framework - essentially allowing the government or military to prevent publication of an issue and the USA managed to infiltrate and control vast media monoliths by stationing intelligence assets in editorial teams news outlets. As we shall see, it’s not just upper government groups that are imposing a framework of ‘imposed ignorance’ or as one academic paper we’ll review terms it an ‘authoritative disregard’ onto wider society - this process has, since the era of the major reports such as Condon and Robertson, become the staple approach for the majority of institutions that come into contact with the issue.
https://bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZZZZZZZZC.htm

* Smithsonian Channel’s UFOs Declassified: Simple Debunking or CIA Disinformation?
Given that a long-time assistant director of the museum was Frederick C. Durant III—the CIA consultant responsible for the agency’s 1953 Robertson Panel Report, which secretly recommended that UFOs be “debunked” and further suggested that the media might play a key role toward that end—perhaps the bookstore’s choice of UFO literature is not surprising. More recently, Smithsonian Books published UFO Crash at Roswell: The Genesis of a Modern Myth. In short, anyone who hoped that the Smithsonian Channel’s UFOs Declassified television series might offer an objective assessment of the phenomenon was destined to be disappointed.
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2015/12/smithsonian-channels-ufos-declassified.html

* Nat Geo’s Chasing UFOs: Investigation as Farce
Despite countless claims to the contrary by debunkers, there really is persuasive evidence—both empirical and anecdotal—to confirm the anomalous nature of the UFO phenomenon. Admittedly, one would never know that by watching the Nat Geo network’s new reality series Chasing UFOs, whose entertainment-based formula may best be described as Blair Witch Project meets Inspector Clouseau. If the show’s producers are not secretly in cahoots with some intelligence agency to make legitimate UFO research look bad, by association, they have certainly achieved that outcome inadvertently.
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/07/nat-geos-chasing-ufos-investigation-as.html

* Robert Sheaffer's Bogus Claims on Nat Geo's "Secret History of UFOs": Incompetence or Disinformation?
NOTE: Robert Sheaffer is a leading spokesman for the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI).
Well-known “skeptic” Robert Sheaffer’s performance in Secret History of UFOs, the National Geographic network’s latest debunking-disguised-as-documentary, begs the question: At what point does the systematic presentation of half-truths and outright falsehoods about the UFO phenomenon cross the line from incompetent scholarship to intentional disinformation? As I noted in my last article, given the extremely biased and propagandistic treatment of the UFO subject one consistently finds on Nat Geo, it might reasonably be argued that the network has been working behind the scenes with the CIA to debunk the phenomenon.
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/08/robert-sheaffers-bogus-claims-on-nat.html

* CSI Skeptic Robert Sheaffer Doubts the U.S. Government Uses the Media to Debunk UFOs
CSI (formerly known as the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, or CSICOP) has a well-established track record of attempting to influence media coverage of the phenomenon, ostensibly for “rational” and “scientific” reasons. Hansen proposes that this is merely a smokescreen and writes:

“CSICOP is an organization of people who oppose what they contend is pseudo-science...CSICOP, contrary to its impressive-sounding title, does not sponsor scientific research. On the contrary, its main function has been to oppose scientific research, especially in areas such as psychic phenomena and UFOs, two topics that, coincidentally or not, have been of demonstrated interest to the U.S. intelligence community over the decades. Instead, CSICOP devotes nearly all of its resources to influencing the American public via the mass media.”

Hansen continues, “CSICOP can accurately be described as a propaganda organization because it does not take anything approaching an objective position regarding UFOs. The organization’s stance is militantly anti-UFO research and it works hard to see that the news media broadcast its views whenever possible. When the subject of UFOs surfaces, either in the news media or any other public forum, CSICOP members turn out rapidly to add their own spin to whatever is being said. Through its ‘Council for Media Integrity’ CSICOP maintains close ties with the editorial staffs of such influential science publications as Scientific American, Nature, and New Scientist. Consequently, it’s not too hard to understand why balanced UFO articles seldom appear in those [magazines].”

He adds, “If the [CIA] had wanted to set up a front organization to debunk the UFO phenomenon, it could have hardly done a better job than to infiltrate CSICOP and encourage its media management activities.”
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/07/csi-skeptic-robert-sheaffer-doubts-us.html

* Science and UFOs: Part 4 - Sincere but Uninformed Skeptics Have Been Duped by Skeptical Inquirer Magazine
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/04/science-and-ufos-part-4-sincere-but.html

* The following illustrates the carefully groomed general attitude of mainstream academia towards the subject of UFOs/aliens.
A Harvard professor is risking his reputation to search for aliens. Tech tycoons are bankrolling his quest.
Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb thinks it's time for the scientific community to get over its bias against UFOs. In the past few years, the renegade professor has set the astrophysics world on fire by claiming that it was reasonable to suggest extraterrestrial intelligence was behind two recent discoveries. Several of Loeb's peers are galled. They say he's overreaching, repeating the axiom that an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence. [...] "Obviously, they will never have extraordinary evidence if they're not seeking it," Loeb told BI.
https://lweb.cfa.harvard.edu/~loeb/BI24_2.pdf


Final Note:

From: Science and UFOs: Part 3—Deep Denial Disguised as Rational Skepticism
One scientist who has advocated a comprehensive, unbiased investigation the UFO phenomenon, astronomer Dr. Bernard Haisch, defines a Skeptic as, “One who practices the method of suspended judgment, engages in rational and dispassionate reasoning as exemplified by the scientific method, shows willingness to consider alternative explanations without prejudice based on prior beliefs, and who seeks out evidence and carefully scrutinizes its validity.”2

By Haisch’s definition, very few scientists are true skeptics on the subject of UFOs. On the contrary, over the years, most have behaved as self-appointed experts, having all the answers, without first investigating any of the facts. Although scientists profess a deep curiosity about little understood or unknown phenomena, when it comes to UFOs, this assertion rings hollow. At the moment, the UFO phenomenon is a blind spot in most scientists’ field of vision. There is definitely something there to be seen, but they can not, or will not, bring themselves to take a look.

As noted earlier, the late Dr. James McDonald—one of the few scientists to have actually studied the UFO phenomenon before holding forth on the subject—once pointedly criticized the thoroughly unprofessional posture toward UFOs he observed among his colleagues and the scientific community at large.
https://www.theufochronicles.com/2012/04/science-and-ufos-part-3deep-denial.html

 

Just as there are parts of the sound spectrum that humans are not able to hear (but dogs can), so too there is knowledge that present humans do not know. There are more laws of physics that we humans DON'T know than what we do know. Wormholes are in that category as I see it, and knowledge of other dimensions.

 

I must confess that I've watched pretty much every single Ancient Aliens piece, and that includes Skinwalker Ranch. Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think they are making things up, I don't think they are practicing deception. With all sorts of modern scientific instruments they have shown many very unusual facts. IMO it's all corroborated by the fact that the Ute indians declared the place to be cursed long before such modern scientific instruments existed.

 

Using LIDAR, they think they have discovered what appears to be a wormhole above the ground. On a computer screen, it looks like an hour glass sitting upright on the earth, fat at both ends and narrow in the middle. I have zero scientific knowledge, but it is fascinating to watch and listen to them carry out and talk about their findings.

 

Wormholes are a mathematical construct made by some theoretical physicists. That isn't evidence that they exist.

I'm not a fan of your analogy, as much of physics can not be sensed by humans directly. That's not a significant barrier to science.

 

Please cite a source for this incredible news. I'd love to read about it.

 

It's hard to imagine a way to prove anything about UFOs. But, it is exceptionally difficult for the governments of the world to hold a secret for any length of time. Even just our own government fails at that.

I think Avi Loeb was trying to make a point about rejecting hypotheses out of hand, rather than holding any belief that Oumuamua IS a space craft.

There are astronomers who believe there are large numbers of Oumuamua-like objects passing through the solar system. We detected Oumuamua more or less by accident when it was already leaving the solar system. Sensing these objects is incredibly difficult today. It's also unfortunate that we are not prepared to visit such objects - something we could do. Oumuamua is not the first such object that has been detected passing through our solar system, carrying rare information on our galaxy.

 

Here's a portion of one episode. I think the visual is at about the 2:30 minute mark in the video. Probably worth watching the whole video though. Travis, the guy with the Alabama accent, is the former head of the US UFO research team.

 

Here's another of them kicking around ideas about their findings from experiments"

 

You can look it up in WIKI.