UN just declared Israeli occupation illegal under international law

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    Russia knows. Midget Hitler doesn't care
     
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    Oof my bad early morning no coffee. thought that read Russia. But ya, Israel needs to back off as well.
     
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    That's what court rulings are, opinions - opinions of a judge, opinions of a jury.
     
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    No.
    A judge rules according to the law and not according to his political or other opinion.
    There are other smarter opinions that Israel won the war against Jordan and the land is theirs.
    Same as California, Nevada, Arizona etc .. that belonged in the past to Mexico.
    Next
     
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    The ruling is based on law:

    'Israel’s policy of settling its civilians in occupied Palestinian territory and displacing the local population contravenes fundamental rules of international humanitarian law.

    'Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states: “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.” It also prohibits the “individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory”.'

    https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/c...-3-israeli-settlements-and-international-law/
     
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    And:

    On Dec. 5, 2001, 114 of the “High Contracting Parties” (i.e. the sponsors) of the Fourth Geneva Convention unanimously “reaffirmed the applicability of the Fourth Geneva Convention to the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem.” In addition, they “reaffirmed the illegality of the settlements in the said territories and the extension thereof.” This specifically counters Israeli arguments that the Fourth Geneva Convention doesn’t apply to Jewish colonies in the Occupied Territories.

    https://www.cjpme.org/fs_001
     
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    It hasn't so far.
    Well, the thing is that the "UN" hasn't "just declared Israeli occupation illegal under international law". Israel's occupation of Palestine has been declared illegal for decades already. But that just supports your first comment here above.
     
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    Actually, that is not deducible, based on the article. Therefore, it is your statement, which is no more than a biased opinion, devoid of supporting evidence.

    The U.N. assigned, expert analyst, does not say anything that hasn't been blatantly obvious, for years:

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    The report calls for “a paradigm shift”, which entails moving away from the narrative of “conflict” between Israel and the Palestine and recognising Israel’s “intentionally acquisitive, segregationist and repressive settler-colonial occupation.

    Albanese urged the international community to formally acknowledge and condemn the settler-colonial nature of the Israeli occupation, demand an immediate end to the illegal occupation, and call on Israel to withdraw its military presence and support to Israeli civilians in the colonies. She cautioned all States against making withdrawal subject to negotiations between Israel and Palestine.

    “Meaningful discussions on a political solution for Palestine can only begin when the illegal occupation is dismantled once and for all,” the expert said
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    EXACTLY. The notion that Israel's occupation has "just been declared illegal by international law" is false. That declaration's been established for a very, very long time. It may have been reworded to gain more attention but it is nothing that's just now been determined for the first time. :disbelief:
     
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    So far, though, it's been nothing but talk.

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    The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal on one of two bases: that they are in violation of Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, or that they are in breach of international declarations.[a][c][d][e] The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Israeli-occupied territories.[f][g]

    Numerous UN resolutions and prevailing international opinion hold that Israeli settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are a violation of international law, including
    UN Security Council resolutions in 1979, 1980,[1][2][3] and 2016.[4][5] UN Security Council Resolution 446 refers to the Fourth Geneva Convention as the applicable international legal instrument, and calls upon Israel to desist from transferring its own population into the territories or changing their demographic makeup. 126 Representatives at the reconvened Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Conventions in 2014 declared the settlements illegal[6] as has the primary judicial organ of the UN, the International Court of Justice[7] and the International Committee of the Red Cross. United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334, which passed 14-0 with the United States abstaining, declared that Israel's settlement activity in the occupied Palestinian territories, including East Jerusalem, "has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law", and demanded that Israel "immediately and completely cease all settlement activities".[8](UN 2016).
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_Israeli_settlements#:~:text=The international community considers the,in breach of international declarations.
     
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    That's right. The corrupt and powerful always have the last word ..... or see to it that no other word is getting out. Who is courageous enough to challenge the Mafia?
     
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    Your link:

    "NEW YORK (27 October 2022) – Israel’s occupation is illegal and indistinguishable from settler-colonialism, which must end as a pre-condition for the Palestinians to exercise their right to self-determination, the UN’s independent expert on the occupied Palestinian territory said today."

    Today it's the "special relationship" shared between the US and Israel that enables the racist, apartheid conditions Palestinians are forced to live under.

    The US Congress could end that tomorrow by simply following its own constitutional principles and forcing the Jewish State to choose between its occupation and its nuclear arsenal:

    https://www.israellobby.org/nukes/#...t U.S.,weapons facilities to IAEA inspections.

    "The US passes the Symington Amendment of 1976. Symington Amendment prohibits most U.S. foreign aid to any country found trafficking in nuclear enrichment equipment or technology outside international safeguards.

    "Israel never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) or subjected its nuclear weapons facilities to IAEA inspections..."

    "As Senator Symington, the sponsor of this amendment, noted, 'In effect, this amendment says to other nations, if you wish to take the dangerous and costly steps necessary to achieve a nuclear weapons option, you cannot expect the United States to help underwrite that effort indirectly or directly.'"
     

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