Unvaxxed children are much healthier than children who've had all their childhood vaccines

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  1. Scott

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    https://concernedamericandad.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/Vaxxed-Unvaxxed-Parts-I-XII.pdf

    ‘Vaccinated Vs. Unvaccinated’, The Study The CDC Refused To Do
    https://concernedamericandad.com/20...unvaccinated-the-study-the-cdc-refused-to-do/

    It seems that childhood vaccines have a lot of side effects. Autism isn't the only side effect. In the top link there's a list of disorders that the vaxxed kids have a lot of and the unvaxxed kids don't have very much of. It kind of looks like the vaccines are causing the disorders. According to what I've read in other sources these disorders are mainly caused by the preservatives in the vaccines.

    I'm just a layman but statistics say a lot if they're not bogus. One doesn't have to have a degree in meteorology to know which way the wind is blowing.
     
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    Disinformation.

    And of course you've done nothing to verify that!

    You spammed this before and ignored replies given!
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...buttar-has-died.610824/page-4#post-1074311114

    Well you need some knowledge to understand it isn't blowing in one direction everywhere! Or that the local area you can test with a wet finger doesn't mean the whole world is doing that, or even the whole street! If someone doesn't understand a subject they don't understand why bullshit claims are bullshit. If every source they surround themself with is related to batshit, that will be what they "see happening". If every informed consensus is ignored because of some absurd confirmation bias then they will NEVER get a balanced understanding.
     
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    Why don't you address the actual info in the links?
     
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    Check out this article.

    Tennessee judge orders unvaccinated 5-year-old boy to take 18 shots, causing an ICU admission and irreversible autism
    https://www.newstarget.com/2024-10-24-tn-judge-orders-injection-of-unvaxxed-boy.html
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    That same day, the couple's children received a barrage of vaccinations – 18 shots for Isaac alone. His daughter was given the vaccines on separate days due to allergies. His eldest son Joseph had a reaction and spent two days in the ICU. While his two older siblings experienced minimal side effects, Isaac's condition rapidly declined. After the vaccinations, he developed a high 106 degree fever, leading to an emergency visit to the hospital. Isaac spent 12 days in the ICU, battling severe complications and high fever, a harrowing experience for a child who had previously been described as a “normal, happy kid.”

    5-year-old now suffers with severe regressive autism, thanks to repugnant, pro-vaccine judge

    Tragically, Isaac was later diagnosed with severe regressive autism, a profound transformation that has left him requiring around-the-clock care. This diagnosis not only devastated his father but also forced Ihben to grapple with the emotional and financial burdens that accompanied his son's new reality.
     
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    Why don't YOU!
     
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    Let’s grant the claims of the study and say kids who are vaccinated are more likely to be diagnosed with various illnesses than kids who aren't vaccinated. How does the study control for kids who are vaccinated being far more likely to have parents who take their kids to the doctor more regularly and are therefore more likely to have their ailments identified and diagnosed?
     
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    Which you haven't verified!

    Yeah, because that definitely sounds like objective reporting doesn't it! Source? The horrifically-biased and disinformation spewing "children's health defense"!

    Hmmm, sounds like a perfect opportunity for litigation! Absolutely not a single cited fact outside of the biased source. No verification for timings. I do not believe in any way that ANY physician would give 18 vaccines at once! Most of them are stepped specific by time and dose!
     
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    How was the autism proven to be linked to the vaccines received? Considering the average age for children being diagnosed with autism in America is five, it would be very difficult to point to the vaccines as a relevant factor.
     
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    I think I made my position clear. If that info is real, it clearly shows that the childhood vaccine schedule has some serious side effects. The only issue that looks debatable to me is whether the info is bogus or real. The info seems to be consistent with the injuries we read about.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...cury-and-autism.579730/page-8#post-1072328811

    That's about as far as a layman can go.


    According to the article the symptoms appeared almost immediately after having received the shots.
     
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    Here are some interesting statistics.

    Want to Keep Your Baby Healthy? Stay Away From Pediatricians…& Vax Facts
    https://concernedamericandad.com/20...althy-stay-away-from-pediatricians-vax-facts/
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    • Number of studies linking vaccines to neurological and autoimmune issues common to autism: 130
    • – Number of studies quoted by vaccine promoter Paul Offit showing no vaccine-autism link: 14
    • – Rate of autism in the 1980s: 1 in 10,000
    • – Rate of autism today: 1 in 36
    • – Projected rate of autism in 2032: 1 in 2
    • – Number of doses recommended by age six per the CDC vaccine schedule 1972: 2
    • – Number of doses recommended by age six per the current CDC vaccination schedule: 50
    • – Amount of aluminum in the four doses at the two month baby checkup: 1,225 mcg
    • – Maximum allowable aluminum per day for intravenous parenteral feeding: 25 mcg
    • – Amount of aluminum received by fully vaccinated eighteen-month old baby: 4,925 mcg
    • – Number of studies proving safety of injecting aluminum into human infants: 0
    • – Amount of mercury in liquid the EPA classifies as hazardous waste: 200 ppb
    • – Amount of mercury in “trace,” “thimerosal-free” vaccines: 2,000 ppb
    • – Amount of mercury in some single-dose vac- cines and some infant flu shots: 50,000 ppb
    • – Amount of mercury in multi-dose flu vaccines, given to pregnant women: 50,000 ppb
    • – Number of current vaccines proven effective: 0
    • – Number of current vaccines proven safe: 0
    • – Cost of caring for a child diagnosed with autism over his lifespan: $3,000,000-$5,000,000
    • – Liability of vaccine manufacturers for vax injury: 0
    • – Rate of asthma in vaccinated children: 6-15%
    • – Rate of asthma in unvaccinated children: 0.2-3%
    • – Rate of ADHD in unvaccinated children: 1-2%
    • – Rate of ADHD in vaccinated children: 8-11%
    • – Projected income to pharmaceutical industry from vaccines 2025: $48 billion
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    They really bash pediatricians in that article. I don't think all of them are like that. I wish I knew the percentages.
     
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    Your "position" is irrelevant!
    Please explain to the viewers why you have many times cited "the scientific method" yet are not using any.
    Go on, just for fun, research what vaccines are given from birth to 5 years old! THEN see just how many are staged boosters!
    Chronic circular reasoning!
    Hogwash!
    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/11288-childhood-immunization-schedule
     
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    WHAT!
    That has to be THE most ridiculous hand-waving reply EVER.

    It's the damn immunization schedule followed by US physicians!

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/imz-schedules/child-adolescent-age.html

    No wonder you cannot honestly answer this, it is clearly a lie by that legal claim to say 18 were given at once. These are stepped doses and absolutely useless given together!

    Please explain to the viewers why you have many times cited "the scientific method" yet are not using any.
     
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    Hmmmm, seems to be a little bit of obfuscation going on here. Let's recap:

    1. 18 shots for Isaac alone.
    2. I state that this is a lie since no physician would do this and there aren't 18 shots to give based on the damn immunization schedule!
    3. Then since that lie is proven, we revert to the crap about the spammed info seen before!

    That simple task should tell you all you need to know about the lie about 18 shots at once.
     
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    It's all second-hand info and some of it's from the mainstream so it's hard to figure out the details. The bottom line is that the kid became autistic immediately after getting the vaccination no matter how many vaccines the shot or shots contained assuming the story is true.

    Please comment on the info in post #14.
     
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    Hogwash! The childhood vaccination schedule is clearly defined!
    What the hell are you talking about! There is no ambiguity or confusion about any of it! There IS no way anyone could or would get 18 vaccinations. It's provably a lie.

    That's bullshit. The bottom line is that the story comes from a known disinformation website. They lied about what happened. There isn't even a guarantee that these people even exist!

    Spam.
     
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    Please go into some detail on why you consider it to be spam.
     
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    Sure. Right after you start answering the 500 posts that you seem to have "missed"!

    Does this help?

    Please explain to the viewers why you have many times cited "the scientific method" yet are not using any.

    Go on, just for fun, research what vaccines are given from birth to 5 years old! THEN see just how many are staged boosters!
    That simple task should tell you all you need to know about the lie about 18 shots at once.

    It requires NO medical education, just the ability to read.
     
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    I didn't bother responding to this because you didn't explain how I'm not using the Scientific Method*. I'm not dogmatic. You're the one who's being dogmatic. Look at this quote from post #17.
    You're not in a position to be sure about anything.


    Why don't you link to something? You're the one putting forth the argument. Maybe the journalist made a mistake. What's important is that, assuming it's not a bogus story, the kid got sick immediately after getting vaccinated. If you can show the story is bogus, I won't dispute it.


    *
    https://www.google.com/search?q=sci...MTE2OTZqMGoxqAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
     
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    What!? I mean WHAT!? You are just posting a link and an excerpt! You aren't doing a single thing to check a single thing.
    Yes I am. There AREN'T 18 individual shots available to be given! They consist of 2nd/3rd/4th boosters etc. Had you bothered to read this, you know, just a cursory nod towards scientific method, you would have seen this.
    I damn well have!
    Hogwash, it's YOUR claim!
    Yeah, of course, that's plausible isn't it. The same mistake multiple times and quoting from the "parent"!
    Nope, you don't get to assume that as the evidence says it IS bogus!
    PROVE THAT!
    Yeah of course you won't! NO physician would administer 18 vaccine injections at once!
     
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    If that turns out to be true, it might have been a mistake by the journalist. You know that I meant that the kid's getting sick might not have happened. That's one reason I don't bother responding to a lot of your stuff; the viewers can see you're twisting things around. They don't need to have it pointed out.

    The viewers are also checking out the info in post #14. Your calling it "spam" isn't going to make them think it's bogus info.
     
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    Complete hogwash. A "mistake" by the ...what did you call them? "a journalist"? Did you not mean BATSHIT-WEBSITE?
    Well duh!
    MEH! The other being by way of evasion. It is hard for you to respond to rebuttal that completely destroys your argument.
    1. YOU aren't the spokesperson for "the viewers". 2. Nothing is being "twisted". 3. Your arguments are toast.
    They do however need to be shown where your claims are complete garbage and to see a complete lack of admission for it.

    The "viewers"? Who are these magic people? The ones who never agree with your claims but see them taken apart? You HAVE spammed those links numerous times and you HAVE ignored rebuttal to them just as many times. Spam is very descriptive.
     

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