US Citizen Killed In Ukraine During Russian Attack

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The State Department confirmed Thursday that a United States citizen was killed in Ukraine during a Russian shelling attack in Chernihiv.

“We can confirm the death of a US citizen in Ukraine on March 17,” a State Department spokesman person told the New York Post. “We offer our sincerest condolences to the family on their loss. We have no further comment.”

Local police in Chernihiv reported on their Facebook that an American was killed during a “heavy artillery attack” by Russian troops targeting civilians in the area. The Facebook post was translated by The New York Post and reportedly said, “Today, the occupiers once again carried out a heavy artillery attack on unarmed civilian residents of the city. There are dead and wounded people. Among the dead – a US citizen.”

“Police officers are helping to evacuate affected citizens to medical facilities. Chernihiv police investigators are working at the scene. Law enforcement officers are carefully documenting all the circumstances and consequences of Russian war crimes,” …








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It’s sad that a Russian military attack against unarmed civilians in Ukraine killed an American citizen today. Yet another of many Russian war crimes sanctioned by Putin since he started the war. The name of the victim will be known after family are notified.

 

Hopefully a catalog of all Russian war crimes committed by Putin against Ukraine’s civilian population will be totally and completely documented

 

I think soon the UN is going to get more aggressive. A no fly zone would be a good start, but I personally would be ok with a massive guided missile strike on all Russian forces in and around Ukraine.
I know there is a risk in escalation, especially with a nuclear power, but somebody needs to put an end to this. Not because an American died, but because of the unnecessary civilian lives being lost. There is no good reason for it.

 

What would be the outcome of anyone imposing a no-fly zone over the USA? Stop making nonsensical suggestion which would cost millions of American lives. Before you know it, the nukes would start flying both ways.

 

It should be noted that the Russians are attacking civilian areas because thats where the Ukrainians have taken defensive positions. Ukraine has opted for a 'Stalingrad' type of war as opposed to meeting the Russians on a front. This is why Russia's blitz strategy failed to achieve a quick victory.

Strategically, its a smart move. Its just that the media tends to gloss over it in attempt to portray the Russians as attacking civilians for no reason...

 

So what is your solution to Putin then? You are worried about a nuclear reaction... what if Putin keeps pushing and starts lining Ukrainians in ovens. Just allow it to prevent a nuclear war?

Maybe we should posture proactively instead of leading from the rear here. It's time to mention to Putin that he's not the only Nuclear power. We have as much nuclear bargaining power as Putin, if not more.

 

The attacking enemy usually dictates where you will be defending.

 

This wouldn’t have happened on Donald’s watch but Putin knows Biden won’t do anything
And now ladies and gents, you know the difference between alpha and beta

 

Well, it was inevitable. Sadly, there will be more.

 

Not to rain on the parade, but the United Nations isn't going to do anything about any of this. The UN is as useless as rubber lips on a woodpecker in general, and in this particular case, Russia is a permanent member of the UN Security Council and can veto any resolution that would call on the UN to do anything about their "special military operation" in Ukraine.

Aside from the UN, there are entities like the EU, Poland, the USA, or NATO collectively that could probably impose a no-fly zone or put a stop to the ongoing war, or at least a major hurt on the Russians inside Ukraine's borders, but they all lack the political will to do it. Hell, they can't muster the courage to even transfer a couple dozen aging MiGs to the Ukrainians. There is a good reason for their lack of political will though: There's a real possibility that if European Union / Polish / American / NATO militaries start killing Russians en masse that nukes will come flying back at those entities.

 

No, I don't "know" what would happen. Also, if America were to militarily and forcefully invade Mexico, killing lots of civilians and bombing indiscriminately, we would deserve it. Are you suggesting that the world should stand by and watch Russia destroy another sovereign nation because we are afraid of what might happen?
Everyone has an opinion and choices, you have yours and I have mine. It doesn't mean necessarily that either one is the correct choice, and sometimes you don't know until you make it. Some take more chances than others. You are using the word nonsensical only because YOU don't understand it. That doesn't make it nonsensical.

 

Our current POTATUS is not capable of doing any of this convincingly. Neither is his ****-sucking VP that embarrasses the nation every time she opens her mouth. The SecDef is this doofus:



He instills fear in exactly no one, and the Joint Chiefs Chairman spends his time studying "white rage" rather than how to stop a Russian invasion.

 

Thank you for pointing that out, I meant NATO.
And I agree, there is absolutely a danger in actions. But sometimes someone has to step up and do something. I completely understand why NATO is hesitant to escalate things. I'm sure they have limits to what they will put up with. Hopefully it will end soon in Ukraine. but we'll see.

 

Unfortuneately, the ICC won't hear a thing on this and the UNSC will not be able to do nothing because of the Russia veto power. The only documentation that you will see is at Human Rights Watch website.

 

Only the UNSC can authorize a no fly zone, but that is not going to happen because of Russia's veto power. NATO may do it, but I doubt it with United States and Canada steadfast in not providing any direct military support such as a no fly zone.

 

You are really sure that NATO has limits? Personally, I think there's a good chance that our POTATUS would leave Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and even Poland all hung out to dry if Russia rolls heavy on them. Biden is utterly incompetent.

 

A veteran friend of mine, who is no way in Russia's corner, told me that, in military terms civilians who take up arms in a conflict are no longer considered civilians.

 

He would not be wrong. Civilian combatants are in essence insurgence.

 

I want to hold my judgement until it's mostly over, as I think it is a very difficult situation to decipher, and I think anything is still possible.
No, I'm not sure what NATO's limit is, but I'll bet there is one. Probably at the border of the NATO nations. But again, we will see.
Personally, I don't think Putin wants to go that far, but I thought he would stop at the two eastern provinces, so..........

 

Per the post from HurricaneDitka, I erroneously put UN instead of NATO. I do also wonder what the limits are.

 

If you dont know the attacker's objectives, perhaps. Thats not the situation in Ukraine tho. Ukraine could've tried to stop the Russians from taking population centers before the Russians got there. But they largely didn't, opting instead to defend the population centers directly. Urban warfare always favors the defender, that the only reason urban warfare ever happens. Its a trade off of higher civilian casualties for higher chance of beating back the enemy.

 

And also makes it more likely that 'leveling cities' will be the outcome here.

 

Well ya, anyone engaged in combat is a combatant.

 

Yes. Thats part of Ukraines strategy. Not only is it more effective to defend in an urban environment, civilian casualties are extremely valuable when attempting to gain sympathetic support, and thats really Ukraines only long term hope here to avoid eventually being forced to capitulate to Russias demands- get other countries to help them fight. Battling in civilian areas increases civilian casulties and raises sympathies for the defender.

 

Yup. I'm loathe to do anything that even resembles defending or excusing the Russians, but the rational side of me looks at some of Ukraine's government actions and recognizes that the tactics they've adopted have contributed to some of the misfortune that has befallen the people of Ukraine. If you pass out weapons to civilians, and hide among them to prepare ambushes and defensive positions, then the enemy soldiers are naturally going to get jumpy and trigger-happy around your civilians. That doesn't excuse them shooting non-combatants, but it's a situation that might have been avoided had Ukraine made more of an effort to make sure that all its combatants were properly identified via uniforms and the like and set up defensive positions well outside of their major cities. That's part of why we got the Geneva Conventions.