US Postal Service Proves Afirmative Action isn't profitable

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  1. sammy

    sammy Well-Known Member

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    The US postal service is in trouble because it has made a practice of hiring and promoting people based on their skin color, rather than their competence. Blacks and Hispanics are the preferred class at the agency. Asians and whites are under represented and sit in the back of the bus when it comes to promotions.

    It’s easy to understand why the USPS loses so much money every year when labor force compensation accounts for 80% of all their costs (insane). $41.15/hr is the average wage of a postal employee (insane) and many are unskilled positions.


    The US Postal Service lost $3.1 billion in the last quarter and has asked Congress to cut Saturday mail delivery and allow it to dip into an estimated retirement fund surplus to pay other obligations. Two proposals in the Senate and two in the House take different approaches to solving the problem.
     
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    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    That's good old Uncle Scam. Teaching racism is bad by being racist himself.
     
  3. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The USPS lost money because it charges less than it costs to deliver a letter. It has nothing to do with the racial makeup of its workforce.

    Other companies whose workforce is largely made up of minorities do quite well - McDonald's Restaurants which has a 53% minority workforce and a board with 1/4 minority makeup is just one of many examples.
     
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    You're right. The USPS is in trouble because of the "darkies."

    It's not because of competition from FedEX and UPS. And it's certainly not because of a decrease in letter mail due to the internet. Nope it's the "darkies."

    Thank you for another racist right wing rant.
     
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    How come you're allowed to say "darkies" without being called a racist?....oh that's right you're a liberal, I forgot. carry-on.
     
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    Complete and utter rubbish that I highly doubt you could back up with anything resembling a reputable source.

    That would mean that the average wage of a postal employee would be more than $85,000 a year. That isn't even remotely close to the average postal worker salary.

    http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos345.htm#earnings

    "Median annual wages of Postal Service mail carriers were $49,800 in May 2008. The middle 50 percent earned between $41,270 and 51,250. The lowest 10 earned less than $37,400, while the top 10 percent earned more than $52,400. Rural mail carriers are reimbursed for mileage put on their own vehicles while delivering mail."

    Hmmm... about the only thing in your post that reasonably resembles reality.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is being sardonic to make a point.
     
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    You just said "darkies" and I'm not calling you racist. It all depends on the context.
     
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    Why didn't you just post this and skip the KKK hate speech? We've all used the post office at one time or another. It's a great topic for discussion. Why would you spoil an excellent point you are making by doing your best Klansman impression?
     
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    sar·casm

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    noun 1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.

    2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.


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  12. ptif219

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    I would say the trouble is the over inflated union wages and the 6 figures the post master general gets
     
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    So it has NOTHING to do with increased competition and decreased revenue due to a significant decline in the number of letters that people send due to the ever-increasing popularity of email?
     
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    Either should easily be offset by economy of scale and technology, both of which the USPS has. The issue is they're not charging enough to mail a letter.

    Canada Post has made a profit for 15 consecutive years and they don't have nearly the same advantages of volume the USPS has. They also don't deliver 6 days a week.
     
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    Just would add the cost to mail a letter in Canada is .59 and in the US is .44.
     
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    Of course he is.

    They are allowed.
     
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    Really anything to back this up with or are you just pulling it out your ass.

    What exactly are unskilled positions?


    So hiring so many black and hispanics is why the Postal Service is going in the hole, wouldn't have anything to do with more people use the internet to pay bills, folks have the option of UPS, FedEX, etc.
     
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    So you mean we could either raise the cost to mail a letter a few cents or we could implement sammy's plan and start a race war? Hhhhmmm... let me think about that. I need to go get some scratch paper. Be back in a bit.
     
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    No it has to do with overpaying unions and huge benefits package.

    I drove for a mail contracter, We got $18 an hour in 2002 that is now $22 an hour. I worked for 3 years I have a 401k from the post office I never added to it was all from the post office and what the 401k grew it is now at over $7,0000. Not bad for 3 years.

    Yes the unions like they do with many companies and industries are driving the post office to bankruptcy.
     
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    No the issue is overinflated wages and huge benefits package. I also said it was management being overpaid which you ignore

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/17/in-hard-times-postmaster-earned-800000-in-pay-perk/
     
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    So the salary is about half what the OP claims it is. Thanks for the reality check.
     
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    This is what a political forum is all about. I don't necessarily 100% agree with the conclusion but I like this. Its a personal experience. We are getting dates, numbers, facts. I actually learned something from this. What a concept! Your reputation points are in the mail! I know, I know. Bad pun.
     
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    No that is not a postal employee that is an owner operator wage which the post office regulates. The post office pays each Owner Op employee money for medical insurance and 401K. You see they over pay every body even those they are not obligated to
     
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    Remember I was not even a postal employee or a union member so imagine what they make
     
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    Apples and bowling balls.

    McDonald's hires on merit.
     

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