Video: Jessica Rose PhD reports on VAERS covid data

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  1. Betamax101

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    @Scott Please could you give a full and concise answer answer to these inconvenient posts?
     
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    @Scott could you answer my post please.
     
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    I humbly apologize. So you didn't get your consecutive 4 userids banned on that forum just 3 for sock-puppets. No problem.
    I am confident that nobody cares at all about your antics on that forum 17 years ago. Should you wish to correctly represent the situation and tell everyone that this was one of a hundred websites you carried out this sort of activity, I will be happy to provide links to videos detailing this.
    Nope. It is absurd that you think the second of those 2 posts is answered with nothing more than deflection!
    ...will see batshit supporting batshit.
     
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    Scott, you were banned from that forum because you had multiple sock puppet accounts so the fault is yours and yours alone. It is stated in their rules that you will be banned for having more than one account.

    Back to the topic at hand.

    You posted a source which stated that the VAERS site will remove your information after thirty minutes if you aren’t done filling out the form. As has been demonstrated that source was lying. She could have easily checked that out herself. Why can’t you just admit that instead of going down some rabbit hole that it’s all somehow related to you being banned for having sock puppet accounts years ago. There is nothing wrong with admitting your source was wrong. It actually shows integrity.
     
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    VAERS accounts for the vaccine injuries that are reported to them. Not everybody reports injuries.

    You should fact check your information related to actual numbers rather than posting some emotional diatribe.

    You might want to stop posting misinformation about me. I have never minimized other peoples vaccine injuries. The only people I hold disdain for are those people who publicly lie about vaccines using misinformation. How about all the innocent people who died during the pandemic who might have lived if they hadn’t fallen for misinformation churned out by antivaxxer’s? I could say that you have disdain for these innocents because you totally ignore that not having the covid vaccine ended in death for some.
     
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    You should heed your own advice; and quit posting your spoon fed govern=mentis PROPAGANDA, lies, and misinformation about “miracle vaccines” filled with lab created toxic chemicals and mRNA gene altering substances.
     
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    Wow, how helpful of you, the viewers don't even need to put a search term in. However, you are deliberately avoiding inconvenient replies!

    Here's some stuff about antivaxers for the viewers to check out.
    GOOGLE!
     
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    When it comes to fact checking, I do heed my own advice and look at many sources. I know there is no hope that you will ever change your views, so the information I am providing is for anybody who is interested in actual fact rather than emotional misrepresentation.

    You can access the full list of what is in each of the covid vaccines in the link below.

    https://www.uchealth.com/en/media-r...sive-list-of-all-covid-19-vaccine-ingredients

    As you can see they are not full of toxic chemicals. The mRNA in one type of vaccine does not alter genes.

    If it were not for the existence of vaccines, many more on this planet would be dead. I don’t think anti-vaxxers ever consider the history of vaccines. Smallpox killed millions of people over centuries. It has now been eradicated via vaccination. Polio, a disease that caused paralysis and death, especially in children, is now on the verge of extinction due to vaccination. Widespread vaccination against measles has significantly reduced the incidence of measles, preventing millions of deaths. The Hepatitis B vaccine has been extremely effective at reducing the incidence of liver disease. The covid-19 vaccines saved millions of lives by reducing severe disease, hospitalizations, and deaths related to covid-19.

    Yes, vaccines have caused a limited number of deaths mostly related to idiosyncratic response to the vaccine, not the vaccine itself. The point is that they have been effective at decreasing, managing, eradicating disease and saving millions of life. Your tunnel vision only allows you to see the negative points while failing to consider the large amount of research that shows vaccines are safe.

    More misinformation. VAERS was set up to monitor for safety signals that might not show up in phase III trials. The fact is — it has been successful and identifying safety signals which has led to research and public health information on how to avoid adverse events. Do you honestly believe that VAERS is the only vehicle to identify and investigate any adverse events related to vaccines or you going to accuse every country of the same thing? Vaccine adverse events are monitored and investigated through several different methods to ensure safety. Health care providers and the public report adverse events themselves. Post-Marketing Safety Studies are conducted after a vaccine is licensed to monitor long-term safety which includes clinical trials and observational studies. Epidemiological studies investigate the patterns that can help identify potential vaccine-related risks. Pharmacovigilance Programs collect, detect, assess, monitor vaccine adverse events to help prevent them once identified. Organizations like the World Health Organization and the Global Vaccine Safety Initiative work with countries around the world to monitor and investigate vaccine safety. Ongoing research and publication in medical journals contribute to the identification of adverse events. Regulatory reporting ensures that manufacturers are required to report any adverse events to regulatory authorities, who then investigate and take appropriate action.

    As you can see it isn’t just VAERS who collects information related to adverse events. I don’t expect you to change your views and I expect you to continue to post your misinformation. I will continue to address it. You really should fact check your sources with reliable and valid scientific research because most of the stuff you believe in comes from the anti-vax echo-chambers who twist information, post outright lies, seem not to understand vaccines, and have totally forgotten about the millions of lives vaccines have saved.
     
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    Nope. Why not tell the "viewers" why you think a link to your conspiracy theory thread and a generic search should be checked out?

    Post #34 has been ignored by you, may we have an answer to it?
     
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    Speaking about paranoia and conspiracy I do note a specific pattern of responses that are anti vax, anti Israel and anti Ukraine that when enunciated on this board use very similar techniques when providing false information and for that matter syntax ( choice of words and expressions).

    If I did not know better its coming from one of my favourite Russian spambots.

    Then again I may have to cut down on my coffee.

    Good work guys on the above. I appreciate the time y'all * took responding.

    *I am from Tonga
     
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    I'm still on the fence about the viruses-don't-exist theory but here's a discussion I had about it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-covid-19-pandemic-does-not-exist.594344/page-13

    Regarding the issue of whether the covid vaccine is causing injuries and death, the bottom line is that the excess death rate went up considerably at about the time of the vaccine rollout.

    Indirect Evidence of Death by Vaccine
    https://mitteldorf.substack.com/p/i...um=email&utm_campaign=cta&utm_source=substack

    https://odysee.com/$/search?q=covid vaccine excess death rate


    As I've said before, I post info that's consistent with what I see happening first-hand. The info you pro-official-version people post is not consistent with what I see happening first-hand.
     
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    I have no words.
    And that is an extremely deceptive statement. Oh sure it was around that time for many places, only the damn rollout was PROVEN to be after it had risen to maximum and this in the majority of cases! Your denial of this proven thing is irrelevant.
    Spam. And quite clearly deceptive spam. There is no way that you see people dropping dead around you!
    Nauseating and repetitive hearsay doesn't count as evidence.
     
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    No. I don't see people dropping dead around me. As I've told you before, I personally know three people who got blood clots shortly after getting the vaccine. I know people who know people who've been injured by it. One of those people knew several people who died after getting it. I didn't know those people personally.
    The owner of a health food store I shop at knows a doctor who says he's seen a rise in the incidence of tumors.
     
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    Why don’t you describe what you are seeing first hand.
     
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    MEH!
    More than enough times to be spamming!
    I don't care or believe you! I know nobody that happened to and I would bet my house I know a considerable number of people more than you do. My hearsay is better and more accurate than yours!
    MEH! Hearsay of hearsay!
    Complete horseshit.
    I don't care.
    Cancer scans were neglected during this period, why wouldn't that be the case!? And who the hell says it was the damn vaccine that caused them, hearsay of hearsay of hearsay!
     
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    @Scott please explain why you never fact check your posts.

    @Scott may we get your considered reply to this? You keep posting one unverified batshit "alternative" link after another and not addressing people's responses to them. Why should anyone bother attempting to correct you or do your fact-checking for you?

    Your latest batshit link with Ed Dowd author of the piece of excrement labelled "Cause Unknown":
    https://science.feedback.org/review...k-death-contrary-claim-financier-edward-dowd/

    Read it, don't read it. I don't care. It tears apart his claims with specific graphs and proper analysis!
     
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    I doubt very much that you personally know three people who got blood clots shortly after getting vaccine. The large hospital in our area was getting 500 to 650 patients in the ER during the Pandemic. There was no sudden rise in blood clots after vaccines were deployed and the number of patients with blood clots did not change from the pre-vaccine levels. I don’t recall any reports of patients coming through the ER with any type of vaccine injury so any injuries were probably attended to by local GP’s which meant they did not require emergency care. There were no reports of any vaccine related deaths. Everyday, the wards were filling up with people sick with covid-19, many sadly died. After the vaccines were deployed, the number of deaths from covid started decreasing as serious symptoms weren’t as prevalent. Those who refused vaccines often voiced regret after developing serious symptoms.

    Due to the Pandemic situation, general health appointments were cancelled, most cancer screening was delayed as well as cancer treatments because the system was overloaded with covid patients. This is why the incidence of tumours increased, not because of the vaccine and to suggest otherwise is a sick lie promoted by anti-vaxxers. The opinion of a health food store owner is meaningless compared to what was actually going on.

    The ER is designed to cope with 300 people per day, and it was coping with double that. It was an absolutely horrible situation. The hospital itself provided over 45,000 vaccinations and you would think that, by the way you talk, the hospital would have had tons of patients dying or sick with adverse events. Nobody was sick or dying from adverse events. This is why I do not believe you. Even if you are telling the truth, it in no way supports that vaccines are unsafe. I know quite a few people who were vaccinated and not one of them developed more than a sore arm with some having mild flu-like symptoms for a few days. I know anecdotes don’t carry a lot of weight but I do know more than you or a health food store owner related to actual vaccine injury that was not occurring.
     
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    Deflecting to antivax-batshit when you get called out for your hearsay! Why don't you respond to these posts properly! You took one single line from a well written post and ignored the rest of it. You have been asked nicely to reply to the numerous posts in this thread and once again refuse to do so?

    An objective seeker of truth would look for the truth not ways to confirm the "things they see happening around them" (meh!) - or ways to use confirmation bias.
     
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    Just because a thread exists does not make the information within the thread true nor does it support your statement either.

    There have been reports of extremely rare cases of blood clots following the covid vaccine mostly related to the AstraZeneca vaccine. The reports were so rare that for you to know three people who developed blood clots after vaccination translates into you knowing over 3 million people. So no I do not believe you.
     
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    Amazing. Did they let you know which ones? Are they psychic?

    There IS under-reporting. Pretty much 100% of it is - "ouch, I've got a sore arm", "oh, I feel a little tired"! If you have anything accurate and substantial to add to that, feel free to post it. See batshit, post batshit doesn't work for most people.
     

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