Virus death rate is .5 precent

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  1. Quasar44

    Quasar44 Banned

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    This is not from Rush but from Top notch Stanford chief scientist and doctors . These are the smartest folks around . Couple of studies .
    You’re far more likely to die in a car crash
    This virus is zero to worry about unless your immune compromised or older.
    Trump has Greatly screwed up and overreacted

    Open most of the nation now before we have nothing to open up

    Do most of you agree ? It’s amazing that the liberals ( ones who hate tyranny ) would capitulate so fast
     
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    1) How about a link?
    2) if the virus infects everyone in the US, than .5 percent represents 1 500 000 dead. Obviouslt that seems impossible. Just sayin that .5 if taken at face value can represent a huge number depending on the infectiousness of Covid 19. Now please show me a link to the .5 percent.
    3) The number of healthy people that have died form Coronavirus completely belies your claim that this only affects the elderly and immunocompromised
    4) Trump has declared this not a big deal. A very big deal. Not a big deal. A big deal. And now not a big deal. Yes he has and is still now screwing up
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem is that 140,000 deaths a year that have been happening for centuries is not a big issue, but 140,000 NEW deaths per year is an absolute catastrophe that demands whatever action possible to correct, by any means necessary.
     
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    Vast amount of deaths have been “ fudged “
    This virus is only big in 4-5 cities
     
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    5 cities account for a MILLION infected?
     
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    Nonsense.

    Provide some evidence kid.
     
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    The death rate is actually even less. Many who have had the virus have not been tested.
     
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    No worries, this thread will be shutdown today, for various violations..

    P.S. The "death" (mortality) rate in the US is holding steady at 5.7%... Been that for a week, so it's pretty stable...

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

    This .5 (or whatever) is some other rate conservatives are falsely trying to push as the mortality rate... most people know better...
     
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    Show that all cause mortality is elevated in any significant manner.
     
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    The only way he gets to that 0.5 figure is if you already account for the "many who have the virus have not been tested."

    It also only works if you assume that the death numbers are not being undercounted. Which is unlikely.

    Global coronavirus death toll could be 60% higher than reported
    To know the real number of coronavirus cases in the US, China, or Italy, researchers say multiply by 10
    36,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Crisis

     
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    Certain cities/states certainly are skewing our numbers. The top five counties, per the Johns Hopkins tracker, are all in New York, and account for almost 200,000 of the total cases nationwide. Louisiana is another hotbed, although it doesn't hold a candle to NY.

    Meanwhile, there are three counties in Florida with a total of only five cases between all three counties.

    It is inarguable that this virus has effected some areas worse than others. Which is also the wisdom behind the President's plan for reopening on a state-by-state and county-by-county basis.



    Exactly.
     
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    Cuomo thinks the death rate in NY could be 0.5%.

    https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/0...new-york-have-covid-19-antibodies-cuomo-says/

    There's been four antibody tests done now, in areas with large populations. Each time the test revealed that far more are infected than we realized. This means that the majority of us will be just fine. It also means that corona spreads like wildfire and is highly lethal for certain groups.

    So what do we do now?

    In my mind, reason suggests that at risk populations should stay quarantined. The rest of us should go about getting things back on track, incrementally, with caution.
     
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    I wonder - why did you back away from your claim that 80% require hospitalization?
    If you're afraid, stay home - don't presume to force others to abide by your fears.
     
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    You know this statement is false, as you know the number of infected used to calculate this percentage is wrong.
     
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    AOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......

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    I'm sorry you don't like it when people call you out on making statements you know are false, but there's nothing I can do about it.
     
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    All of these figures are guesses because the President, almost personally, has FAILED to provide enough tests and tested supplies (my god, the USA doesn't even have enough COTTON SWABS! May Pence can get his head out his ass and get some from China since the USA can't make these hi-tech components!)

    Its becoming obvious that Trumps constant lies that "there are tests enough for everyone" that Trump is deliberately preventing adequate testing to HIDE the number of deaths Trump has enabled with his abject failures!

    Now he says he is going to "double the tests"??? That's like striking a match in a hurricane for the minimum needed tests! This clown is pathetic! He is a JOKE!
     
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    So you agree:
    Egoboy made a statement he knows is false.
    Thank you for your support.
     
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    Get a grip.
     
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    He clearly said "deaths", not "infection".
     
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    Unfortunately, you're wrong. :(

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    :lol:
    Your graph shows new deaths per week, not total deaths across the year.
    And thus, your graph is irrelevant to the point made.
     
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    Did you really tell us you want Pence to get some test kits from China?
    WTF? The Chinese tests proved not to be reliable. Or more likely, do you just want another excuse to complain about the administration.
    Wondering how long it will take people in this country to figure out the Chinese government is not our friend.
    Over 50,000 Chinese PPE Kits Fail Quality Test In India, Domestic Production Ramped Up
    Spanish Authorities Seize 58,000 Faulty Chinese COVID-19 Test Kits
    Eighty percent of coronavirus tests ‘donated’ by China to Czechs are faulty
    University of Washington Got Contaminated Tests From China



     
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