was confucius "woke?"

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    is woke a harmless good natured insult like when i'm called a "commie?" or is it closer to "cult?" a word that has piled points on many of us, including me, as the right continues it's cancel cult ure offensive.
     
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    I'd describe the term "woke" as social justice "warriors", basically acknowledging "obvious" and "pervasive" systemic injustices, an example, the poor having much less representation than the rich in the criminal justice system where all should be the same in the eyes of justice. The far RW has perverted it to encompass all of their obvious grievances embedded in their biases.
     
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    Im sure it depends entirely on the context and the user.
     
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    First, it means a very poor understanding and use of English.
     
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    It seems you are confusing woke with humanitarianism.
     
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    maybe "woke" is understanding there is a problem and "humanitarianism" is working to solve it?
     
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    No, I think in today's vernacular, right or wrong, woke has much more meaning than that.
     
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    Without a strong nuclear family there is no extended family because there is no foundation for it. The government sponsored destruction of black nuclear families through the welfare state has resulted in a completely dysfunctional segment of society in which murder rape and pillage are the norms. Note it has nothing to do with race the same tng is happening to white families and all others that have fallen prey to the welfare state for prolonged periods of time.
     
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    No woke is the idea that before the following can have total loyalty to their ideology every other human loyalty must first be destroyed.
     
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    Laughable Chaing may have ended the examination system but mao murdered the Mandarins.
     
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    What exactly is the woke gospel?
     
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    Claiming that all white folks are racists is "humanitarianism "?
     
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    Considering his Father only created 2 genders I’m sure Jesus doesn’t believe the woke’s claim of 78 or are they claiming more now?
     
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    I think it is the against the rules to admit that there are genders now. It's hard to say though as woke rules seem to change at whim
     
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    Creating terms may be less insidious than distorting old ones, but the intent is the same; disorient others and impose something foreign. The Jesuits were expert at this. Look at the history of their reign in the Americas.
     
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    I think they still knew what a woman is. So no. They were enlightened. That is very much the opposite of the woke cult.
     
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    This is what happen when people corrupt the word of God for their own purposes. They are called false prophets. Jesus called out the Pharisees for the same corrupt message.
     
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    i rather like "matthew" as the best presentation of christ's teaching, but mark luke and john are also good.

    "acts of the apostles" is not technically a gospel but there is a good chapter where saul is thrown from his horse as a lesson in tolerance and the disciples of course lived in common and shared everything they had with the poor.
     
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    Mabey in your mind it is.
     
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    Many people who believe in social justice, are called "woke." The overwhelming majority of them, however, bear no resemblance to the portrait you paint, in your purported definition, of the woke "idea." Therefore, on its face, your statement is preposterous-- made all the less credible, by the fact that you do not support your beyond hyperbolic allegation, with any argument, whatsoever.

    The boundaries of this term are somewhat ambiguous, and subjective. You appear to only be applying it to the most extreme, of a much broader group. IOW, to propose such a propagandistic manner, for any to seriously consider as representing the woke mentality, you would need give actual examples of the sort of behavior, to which you're referring-- and what type of "woke," opinions or concepts, you are excluding.

    Maintaining that any American who perceives there being, for example, any systemic racism, anywhere in our society, means that he is bent on the destruction of "every other human loyalty," within our country's culture, is obviously no more than a farcical lampooning, of the very attitude you are expressing.
     
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    With every new sunrise a new gender is born ;)
     
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    If you want to claim that "woke" just means being aware of injustice or whatever, then you're going to have to provide another word to mean pushing racial discrimination against white people, authoritarian left, etc. You don't get to play word games to avoid addressing the actual concerns people have. Nobody will buy it.
     
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    Culture is not based on political affiliation or a form of government.
     
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    that examination system was based on the Qin Dynasty for those positions, which were based on family and patriarchy. Most Asian cultures, including Japan, still have some form of patriarchy in their culture.
     
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    They had no choice. And even among them it wasn't a requirement as Paul said in his answer to Ananias. The latter and his wife did not die because they did not share all they had they died because they lied about how much they did give in a vain attempt to gain standing in the community.
     

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