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Was the invasion of Okinawa necessary

Discussion in 'Nuclear, Chemical & Bio Weapons' started by Josephwalker, Feb 22, 2019.

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  1. Josephwalker

    Josephwalker Banned

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    Revisionist anti American socialist anti capitalism propoganda being taught as history to our coming generations.
     
    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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    You won't find any of that in my class.
     
    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    The pages of the Chicago Tribune in 1945 certainly is history.
     
    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    "Even military officers who favored use of nuclear weapons mainly favored using them on unpopulated areas or Japanese military targets … not cities."
     
    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    "The Japanese were prepared to negotiate all the way from February 1945…up to and before the time the atomic bombs were dropped; …if such leads had been followed up, there would have been no occasion to drop the [atomic] bombs."
     
    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    "In Einstein’s judgment, the dropping of the bomb was a political – diplomatic decision rather than a military or scientific decision."
     
    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    The history of propoganda disguised as news in an era where the communist party in this country was still strong.
     
    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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    You have to remember Pearl Harbor occurred when Japan was "negotiating". There was nobody in their right mind that trusted them and if they wanted to surrender they could have done so at any time without so called negotiations which may have only served to give them time to regroup and rebuild.
     
    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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    To be honest I'm not sure I'd know about him if he wasn't a distant relative. I'm a descendant of his brother Jacob who's an even lesser known historical figure even though he was one of the last Texans to be killed at the Alamo.
     
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    LOL
     
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    There it is! The goal posts are moving!
     
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    You don't know the communist party was strong in the US both pre and shortly after WW2 and you are a history teacher. God help us.
     
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    I know what you're doing, and it's hilarious.
     
    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    Japan didn't surrender until we dropped the bomb on them. Goal post remains in place.
     
    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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    Sorry but I don't find any humor in a history teacher not knowing or worse yet denying this historical fact.
     
    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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    Neither of those things are the case here. What you are trying to do is deflect and deny because you don't have it in you to admit you were wrong. That's hilarious.
     
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    Straw man
     
    unkotare, Feb 24, 2019
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    What am I wrong about?
     
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    That Japan had sent out feelers about surrendering well before Truman dropped the atomic bombs, and that the bloodthirsty fdr completely ignored MacArthur's memorandum informing him of this just prior to Yalta.
     
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    The Chicago Tribune was solidly Republican. You are missing the point about what is wrong with his link - where is the actual substance of the MacArthur memo? We only have the article's characterisation without any context.
     
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    Never said Japan didn't feign offers of negotiating of surrender but I did say those offers couldn't be taken seriously after pearl harbor. Japan could have surrendered any time they wanted to but didn't until after we dropped the bomb. Your assertion that our government was blood thirsty instead of taking previous deceitful negotiations into consideration once again chills me as to who is teaching our children history.
     
    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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    I get that point and should have made it.
     
    Josephwalker, Feb 24, 2019
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