We're Headed To War With Russia, and No One Seems to Care

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    "Russia is ready. NATO sure ain’t! Oh, they have the numbers and they think they are strong. The truth is that these NATO midgets have no idea of what is about to hit them, when the Russians go to war these NATO statelets won’t even understand what is happening to them."

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    https://russia-insider.com/en/were-headed-war-russia-and-no-one-seems-care/ri22900

    Writes intelligent person. I completely agree with him.

    Are you ready to die for the profits of the oligarchs? Are you ready to support the neocons psychopaths?

    What do you think about it?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The entire West, in its breath-taking complacency, AND ARROGANCE in numbers, is under the delusion that it's invincible, and if the worst should happen - and on Theresa May's head be it - I hope that we, as the architect, will find out the hard way that we weren't. The other thing I hope is that me and my family will be at ground zero.
     
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    From all of its weaponry, Russia only has nuclear weapons that are respectable force.
    Let’s see, you have 16 mobile and 60 silo based Topol Ms. 90 mobile and 20 silo based Yars missiles.
    The rest is pretty much something you mount on an aircraft or shoot from navy. You aircraft, TU-95, is ancient and slow, not much of a threat there. Your navy..... well, you don’t really have a real blue water navy. We all watched Admiral Kuznetsov and half of Western world almost died from chuckle.
    Coming back to silo based nukes - they are stationary and everyone knows where they are. You have a little over 100 mobile launchers, but I bet they are being stared at from space 24/7. Besides, no one knows what condition they are in, Admiral Kiluznetsov might be very showing of what to expect. As for missiles themselves - the success rate of Russians launching newly designed rockets is very telling.
    At the same time you are forgetting a giant fleet of nuclear armed subs in the oceans that will start raining fire on your heads at a minutes command and your non-existing navy won’t be able to do anything about it.

    You can dream about the war all you want, but I believe there are enough smart people at Russian leadership to realize that whatever Putin feeds his cattle doesn’t change the fact that Russia can’t do a surprise attack due to distances and Russia can be taken down very fast if those subs start firing from every ocean that surrounds Russia. American navy pretty much gives the ability to the US to cart a nuke within 200 miles of your shore and start firing. You won’t even have a warning that it’s coming.
     
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    This is a very accurate phrase.

    Not the people of Britain (The people that gave the world so many great people from William Shakespeare and Charles Darwin to David Bowie and Jimmy Page can not be bad), but the crazy government is pushing the world toward a big war.
     
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    Who heals you? You obviously have problems .... Russian Warships Refueling At Sea After Canceling Spanish Port Call. https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-flotilla-kuznetsov-refueling-at-sea-spain/28080015.html But some feeble-minded decided - Admiral Kuznetsov has a malfunction. And absolutely headless began to spread this stupidity on the Internet. Because they do not have a brain.
     
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    Another fine thread... for Pravda.
     
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    Clearly Mr. Putin is creating an atmosphere of animosity and the world body is sick of it and reacting. If eventual warfare breaks out it will be the result of Georgia, Crimea, Syria and innumerable smaller matters from interference in national politics to murder and the killing of innocents. The man has become pariah internationally and if he does something overtly damaging to a western nation or a NATO partner he will be inadvertently requesting war.
     
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    Paul Craig Roberts thinks that if the Russians don't make the first strike, they will be crushed. I think he is probably right about that, and I hope we are both wrong.
     
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    If there is a war, Russia will regret it deeply.

    But there will not be a war. This is just one of the countless forms of agitprop they employ. We were supposed to be excited about the prospects of war with Russia during the 2016 race, too, when it was, of course, all blamed on Hillary. We've been "headed to war" with Russia for years now. They can put up or shut up about it.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Paul Craig Roberts is a kook who has been ranting against US policies for a long time now. It's his bread and butter, and he's never right.
     
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    I think your source is no more worth paying attention to than you are.
     
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    Somehow I place more credibility on his writings than on your posts. He tends to avoid ad homs, but they are your frequent tactic.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    He is never right about anything, but of course the Russians love to roll him out everywhere they can to serve as agitprop.
     
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    The Russians will not regret it for sure. Have you heard what Putin said? If not, I'll protsetiruyu - "Why do we need a world in which there will not be Russia? We do not need such a world". And at least 95% of Russians agree with him. In the election, Putin won more than 70% of the vote, the rest who voted for the Communists, believe that Putin is too soft foreign policy.
     
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    I would take his opinion over yours, given his experience. Ever look at his experience. And then peruse your own?

    Kooks don't hold the jobs he has held. Look it up. His voice is a voice of sanity, hearkening back when DC was sane. Instead of insanely irresponsible.

    You just do not want to hear what he has to say for it contradicts your beliefs. Common.
     
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    The way Russia is carrying on, it's crying for regime change.
     
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    the Wolfowitz is strong in here. Sad.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Kooks can come from any background. Look at that Fetzer clown who was always banging on about an alleged hoax on 9/11.
     
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    Are you raving? There are more than 200 countries in the world. 20 are not satisfied with Putin's policy (but they do not want to break the economic and political ties finally. Germany, for example, yesterday gave its full consent to the construction of the North Stream 2 in its territorial waters.). More than 180 countries treat Russia with respect. In addition, Russia, China, India, Pakistan and a number of other states have close and friendly relations. This is more than half of the world's population. Rather, you are more like a pariah internationally.:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Russians can’t land planes on their own aircraft carrier and that thing breaks down so often, it needs a tow boat next to it. And Putin was so full of his demonstration of power that he showed it to the whole world. It makes you question the shape of the rest of Russian forces that are rarely used - like condition of those ICBMs.
     
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    Do not worry. No NATO missile will fall on Russia. In addition, in any case there is a system of "Dead Loop", which will hit all countries aggressors, even if it does not remain no one Russian. Remember about "Status 6". some of these systems are capable of wiping the US off the face of the earth. But there are others. So do not worry about the Russians.
     
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    No one in their right mind seeks a war with Russia, and it's not going to happen.
     
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    I believe Russia has ''dead hand" system, which will launch nukes everywhere If radiations reach a certain threshold in cities. Without Human input.

    You cannot start a war with Russia, the west knows it. They seek to Win otherwise, ofc
     
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    I know nothing about Fetzer, but I have known of Roberts since he served under Reagan, as back when he was Editor of the WSJ. Kooks do not hold the positions this man has held. And he is an insider, understands DC. That he sees the corruption, that our system looks like an Oligarchy means he has plenty of others with his kind of experience who agree with him. MSM had no time for them and so they are relegated as kooks. Quite clever and we even have forum members here who help them out. Roberts has justifiable reasons for his views, and he backs them up on his site. That he and VIPS agree on most things is a sign that we once had honest people in gov't and intel and something has changed, drastically. These are all patriots and their records support that.

    You just do not want to accept what these people are saying. IMO. As I said, that is very common. I have no problem accepting it, for I discerned it before I ever listened to any of these retired men. And what they have noticed is fu*king obvious, self evident to objective minds, those capable of objectivity. Hell, it is now right there out in the open. That people will just ignore it is rather astounding to me. And it is the only view that makes sense, giving coherence to what appears to be utter incoherence.
     

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