Were there white slaves from Ireland?

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Were a significant percentage of the Irish taken as slaves?

  1. Zero to ten percent of the Irish of the past thousand years were probably "slaves"

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  2. Eleven to twenty percent of the Irish of the past thousand years were likely "slaves"

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  3. Twenty one thirty percent of the Irish of the past thousand years were likely "slaves."

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  4. Perhaps even more than thirty percent of the Irish of the past millennia were treated like slaves.

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  1. DennisTate

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    I like the way that this blog takes this topic back several centuries before the seventeenth to nineteenth centuries that are of course more relevant to all of us.

    This topic is surprisingly politically incorrect for some reason.

    http://www.theburkean.ie/articles/2020/06/14/the-irish-were-slaves-deal-with-it

     
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    Didn't a lot of Scottish people get banished to Ireland for being Catholic back in the day and that's why there's Scots-Irish?

    IDK. I didn't think Scots-Irish people in America were Catholic, so, IDK; but, didn't Mary Queen of Scots get locked up and, people got banished to Ireland; or something - Something like that happened, unless I'm mistaken.

    Back then, you steal a loaf of bread and get caught, you were banished to be a slave somewhere for 7 years or something, in the British Isles.
     
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    I suppose in some way, the Irish back in the day were largely viewed the way the Mexicans are by nationalists in the US are today. The old phrase, "When the going gets tough, the tough get going" was originally coined about the Irish who had a history of flooding into other places for work when things in Ireland were too harsh. Of course then there is the kindly fact that England could have dealt with the great potato famine more humanly but decided to engage in policies near akin to genocide to break the backs of the peasants on behalf of the land-owning aristocracy.
     
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    I think a lot of European slaves back then were slaves because they owed people money and were given a fixed sentence of servitude rather than life.

    They also got to keep their names and their heritages too, but a slave's a slave nonetheless.
     
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    Exactly!!!!

    I think that tribe vs tribe and clan vs clan slavery in every nation on earth over the past two millennia was on a scale that would boggle our minds once we can view the footage..... (which I believe is possible during a genuine near death experience and I presume when we pass on from this four dimensional space - time continuum)!


    www.CarboBias.blogspot.ca/



    IRISH: The forgotten white slaves


     
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    By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves. Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.


    The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves | Rasta Livewire (africaresource.com)

    From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well
     
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    Thank you for this exceptionally insightful comment submarine painter.

    An interesting aspect to all of this are the Jewish traditions that part of the Tribe of Dan migrated to Ireland.... so the term "Black Irish" can play a role in increasing cooperation between us Irish all across the racial and ethnic spectrum.
     

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