What does help for Ukraine mean?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by yangforward, Mar 11, 2023.

?

What does help for Ukraine mean?

  1. 1. Help means, well, help. And it's for all the people in Ukraine

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. 2. Money for top Ukrainian politicians and military staff

    1 vote(s)
    33.3%
  3. 3. Help means primarily weapons but also pallets of $100 dollar bills

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. 4. Badly needed income for starving US weapons makers

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. 5. 10 million Ukrainians have left since the help started arriving, so it should be called 'harm'.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. 6. 'Ukraine' means the people of Ukraine, both the Russian-speaking and Ukrainian-speaking

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 7. 'Ukraine' means the government of Ukraine

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 8. Increased profits for US weapons makers

    2 vote(s)
    66.7%
  9. 9. Other definition of help or people of Ukraine or nation of Ukraine or anyone affected by the war

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2022
    Messages:
    3,389
    Likes Received:
    1,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Seems simple,

    but the population of Ukraine is scarcely 2/3 of the amount it was when we started 'helping'

    so when we say 'helping' I don't think it means what most of us think it means.

    So what does 'help' really mean?
     
  2. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2022
    Messages:
    6,451
    Likes Received:
    5,245
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Help would mean getting the needed weapons to the Ukrainian armed forces when they really need it. Biden has done a very poor job of that. When the Russian tanks were lined up like ducks outside of Kiev at the beginning of the war, Biden would not let them have to old MIG aircraft that was available. At other times he’s slow walked the deployment of missile systems when they could have done some good.

    I don’t know what Biden’s strategy is. He can’t articulate it, and neither can the people under him. When Tony Blinken is the best person in your entire cabinet, you know you have assembled a group of third and fourth rate advisors.
     
  3. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2022
    Messages:
    3,389
    Likes Received:
    1,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's how politicians roll.

    They never admit when an action doesn't work, they just say 'you didn't do enough of it'.

    They 'double down' on all errors, throw in more and more weapons and if things get worse they just say we needed even more weapons, and sooner, and bigger bombs.

    Threatening Pres. Putin did not produce the action the Biden administration had inadvisably predicted,
    so they just say we need to kill more people and make bigger threats and then it will all turn out fine.
     

Share This Page