What happened to my country?

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What happened to my country?

  1. We started a war to help another country

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  2. We got rid of mean tweets, and found something a lot worse

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  3. the US is causing climate change so we have to destoy it

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  4. We need more illegal immigrants

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  5. Things are looking pretty bad but just wait another month and they will be worse

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  6. It's all Donald Trump's fault for retiring.

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  7. Focus on gendered bathrooms

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  8. Other suggestion

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In 2020 we could see the end of COVID and the economy began to recover, and things were looking good. The only big problem was Donald Trump writing mean tweets, and refusing to send tons of weapons to the capital of Ukraine.


    Now Joe Biden has sent the weapons, and in keeping with the Democrat's continual pronouncement that more weapons means more killing, the low level conflict in Ukraine is now a very big one and Russia had to keep it's promise of moving in to protect Donetsk from the artillery the US sent in.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putin got caught with his pants down this time didn't he? How's he going to get out of it now. I hope they find him dead in his bunker like Hitler.
     
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    Putin started the war. Full stop.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe some polonium high tea.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That sounds good, but what if his successor is worse?
     
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    Biden said a minor incursion wouldn’t bother him.

    In any war attacking the enemy’s supply lines is always a smart strategy. What happens when Putin decides to attack Ukraine’s supply lines which would be the US ships carrying all the military equipment to Zelensky?
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Presidents list short with D and R.png

    This list is somewhat debatable, though the overall trend does come through.

    It could be argued that after the gun runner Lusitania was sunk that the US had to go to war.
    On the contrary side the Monroe Doctrine stated that in return for European countries making no new colonies in the US, that the US would keep out of European wars.

    It could be argued that Richard Nixon did not start the Vietnam war, but he did extend it.
     
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    Putin invaded. Biden didn't. Learn. I don't understand why you are defending an invasion by a fascist dictator.
     
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    Vladimir Putin did eventually agree to attacking the rail transport by taking out a lot of power lines, the trains are powered by electricity.
     
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    The war mongers never consider the long term consequences, only the short term gratification of whupping axx.

    History shows you can't whup axx without getting a due axx whupping in return.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Vladimir is primarily an administrator, I'm not sure it would make that much difference.
     
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    If you’re asking me if I care that anyone invaded a country with a neo Nazi problem, that’s among the most corrupt countries on the planet, which is led by an oppressive leader who shuts down churches and sends political opponents to prison, the answer is no.
     
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    The day that the Russians invaded was the day that there were more neo-Nazis in Ukraine than the day before. To defend Putin is to defend fascism.
     
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    Ya never know.
     
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    Who’s defending Putin? Two evil and corrupt thugs are in a brawl and Biden is arming one of them with our money. To say I’m defending Putin is to say you’re defending neo Nazis, corruption and fascism in Ukraine.

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    Biden was VP when him, Obama, Nuland and the likes of McCain/Graham caused/funded/orchestrated the Coup of the last Democratically elected President of ukraine in 2014. The US had funded and trained approximately 30 battalions, full of nazis...while a civil war was going on since 2014....before Russia made a preemptive move.

    Speaking of learning, you should.
     
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    The next time liberals accuse me of being a Nazi I’m going to tell them I identify as being Ukrainian. At that point they’ll say ‘oh, that changes everything.’
     
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    You really want to know what happened?

    In 2000 there was a really close election between a green weenie and a jolly rancher from Texas. The jolly rancher was presumed to be a better choice than the guy that invented the internet but in no way, shape or form were we on track to get back to the Reagan Revolution. In September of 2001 a mess of **********s drove planes into the WTC and the jolly rancher retaliated by grounding all flights for a week, centralizing all the national security departments and sending troops into Afghanistan with the idea of stopping Islamic terrorism. Unfortunately, instead of stopping Islamic terrorism the jolly rancher decided to go on some half assed nation building spree in Afghanistan while the terrorists went on a recruiting spree. A couple of years later the jolly rancher decided to go into Iraq because "terrorism" and, once again, chose nation building instead of "crush the bastards". While that crap was going on the Democrats recruited the mother of a fallen Afghan soldier to be the the face of their dream to renew the glory of the anti-Vietnam protest era, but without any of the good music. Then along came a hurricane that took out New Orleans and got Geraldo to make up for his "Al Capone's Safe" show by starting a "Callibals in the Superdome" show. The jolly rancher got blamed for creating the hurricane and not single handedly driving all the buses that the New Orleans mayor left drowning in the parking lot. Basically, the jolly rancher killed a bunch of black people because....well, because the jolly rancher was white and, since the "New Vietnam" movement was getting enough political traction for the Democrats, it was a great way to stir up a new civil rights movement.

    At that point everybody was frustrated with wars that didn't accomplish anything and the jolly rancher, coming to the end of his presidency, just stopped giving a damn. The next election pitted a "Maverick" against a bitch and a black guy. The Maverick and the bitch just weren't likeable plus we had an economy that had cratered so everyone voted for the black guy because, hey, it was something new. The black guy, along with the rest of the Democrats, decided that the best solution to the economic and war problems was to nationalize the medical and auto industries. The Republican response to that was to elect, among others, a woman that had to tell us she wasn't a witch and a guy that campaigned on "I drive a truck". The only good news out of that midterm is that enough Republicans got elected to stop the further nationalization of the economy. In the next general election the Republicans ran a guy with all the charisma of warm milk. He lost and the GOP did what they do best, sat around and grumbled.

    Come 2016 the bitch was back running and the GOP, unable to come up with anyone that even had as much charisma as warm milk guy, got blown out of the water by by an obnoxious clown. The obnoxious clown was less a threat to nationalize everything than the bitch was so he got elected and, as it turned out, managed to get some economic steam pumping and had a few military successes. At that, everyone's head exploded and we decided that the right people to be in charge were the media. I mean, why not? It had been just a few years since they made a movie about the media running the government so, recognizing that the LAST thing we could have as a nation was a successful clown as president, we put CNN and MSNBC in charge. With the media firmly in control, we ran into COVID which, through proper and effective promotion, we turned into Ebola on steroids thus allowing us to crash the economy again. The result...Biden. Another green weenie who LOVES wrecking economies and nationalizing ****.
     
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    If that's the fiction you need to sell yourself to keep defending a fascist invasion, you do you.
     
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    History shows the leftists often accomplish their utopian goals the same way hitler tied his shoes.

    With little nazis.

    Like in Cambodia, just give every kid a red sash and a rifle then tell them to round up everyone that wears eyeglasses. "It's the first step to Utopia. No, really. For real this time".
     
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    All of the above :)
     
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    Ukraine's most successful field battalion is made up a Nazis...lol
     
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    If a couple hundred Nazis represented the whole country then almost every country would be Nazi. Including Russia. Lol.
     
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    No, no...you aren't getting it. The reason there were more Nazis in Ukraine after the invasion, is because the Nazis went to Ukraine to fight the Russians...lol

    It's more than a couple hundred...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade

    Note their list of battle honors.
     
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