What would future Australian & Canadian aircraft carriers be named?

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  1. Dayton3

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    I've been writing a multiple genre story and I feature a war in the 2040 (yeah it is basically World War 3) where there is a Canadian and an Australian carrier supporting a combined U.S. & U.K. carrier force.

    The Canadian and Australian carriers are in the mode of being "F-35 carriers" as has been proposed.

    What likely names would these ships have? I figured neither would adopt the U.S. practice of naming them after former national leaders.

    Canada and Australia both had three Majestic class carriers each back prior to the 1970s or so that they got from the British. The Australians would unlikely never name a carrier after their last one the Melbourne because of its horrid reputation for colliding with and sinking the ships of its allies.
     
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    Well, expect them to be variants of the QE class of carriers. And likely use the F-35B STOVL variant.

    As for names, Australia traditionally names their ships after Australian cities. So simply pick one that does not have a recent model ship named for it. So how about the HMAS Nowhere Else? Or the HMAS Mount Bugger? HMAS Sausage Gully?

    And Canada does the same thing, they name them after cities in Canada. So we can have the HMCS St. Louis du Ha! Ha! The HMCS Head Smashed in Buffalo Jump. Or the HMCS Climax (and if they build a second one, the HMCS Sexsmith).

    However, in all honesty I can't see either of those countries ever returning to a "true carrier". If anything, I would expect that if they felt the need for such a ship they would go more along the lines of the JMSDF Izumo class or USN America class helicopter assault ships. Both of which can carry the F-35B, yet still be more flexible in mission than a conventional carrier.
     
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    Probably. Though I wasn't really thinking of a full on attack carrier in the mode of American supercarriers. I was thinking more along the lines of something that in a major war they could slot into an American carrier task force.
     
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    Does not matter, just like in the US they would follow the traditions they already established.

    That is, for each of them naming them after cities.

    The US has a similar custom, which we largely got from the British. Battleships were once named after states, but now that is reserved for nuclear submarines. Our Destroyers are named after people. All of our patrol boats are named after winds. Our "Little Crappy Ships" were named after cities. Our current carriers are all named after people. Our Harpers Ferry class Landing Ship Dock and Tico cruisers are named after past battles. The Whidbey Island class LSD is named after notable places.

    It is almost unheard of to completely change how ships are named. And Canada has no real history of naming their ships after people. In fact, the only 3 I could find in a list of current and former RCN ships were the three ships of Pre-WWI that were built as ice breakers. No other ships of the RCN were ever named after people (with the exception of a few that started life as civilian vessels. One being the Lady Evelyn. Originally a civilian passenger ship named the Deerhound, the Postal Service purchased and renamed it to carry mail. It was transferred to the Navy during WWII and turned into a patrol boat, but the Lady Evelyn name remained.

    But as Canada has no tradition of naming their ships after people, I can't see them ever doing so in the future.
     
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    All Oz brings up to me are people with great tans, crappy beer, and good BBQ. They can name them after famous hookers for all I care, I would be fine with that. Any country whose soldiers can invent such 'unofficial' MOS's as 'Tunnel Rats' can do whatever they damn well please.lol you would have had to shoot me before I ever went down one of those holes.
     
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    The PEanut Gallery can find their calculators and figure out that at rock bottom prices of $44,000 for a Tesla with no frills divided by its first 250,000 miles, a big 'if' that anybody ever puts that on one, is over 17 cents per mile just on the purchase price alone.If that didn't wear you out, or after you take a nap from the strain of doing the first numbers, do the same for the $130,000 model .... it's over 52 cents a mile for the first 250,000 miles up front, not including other expenses that will accrue.

    Please ignore the dumbasses who believe crap they read in sales ads.
     
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    Yes the Melbourne did do that and it was believed to be “jinxed”

    Here is a list of current names https://www.navy.gov.au/fleet

    But future vessels will in all probability have First Nation names and since there is a tradition of calling them after places or towns (I.e the HMAS Toowoomba) they would probably continue that https://australian.museum/learn/cultures/atsi-collection/sydney/place-names-chart/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_place_names_of_Aboriginal_origin
     
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    Well, all I can say is you are rather out of touch
     
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    Ummmm We would most likely be working alongside Indonesia against China since that is the way things are pointing currently

    https://news.defence.gov.au/media/m...nd-indonesia-conduct-combined-maritime-patrol
    https://news.defence.gov.au/international/hmas-anzac-strengthens-partnership-indonesia
     
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    I would still love to see an HMCS St. Louis du Ha! Ha!.
     
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    What about Angela White?
     
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    What about her?
     
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    It’s theme song could be “Meet me in St Louis”
     
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    Ultra hot Australian porn star.

    And she uses her real name.
     
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    Australia = Matilda.

    Canada = Slap Shot
     
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    And this has what to do with the topic?
     
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    I was told that the Australians don't name major warships after famous people.

    I was suggesting a famous Australian. And at one point she ran for office on behalf of the Pro Sex Party.
     
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    Well, mate, all I can say is that there are way more famous Australians than her and no, we do not name warships after people
     
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    Larry, Moe & Curly.
     
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    Canada had an ACC ....back in the day....lates 50s-early 60s?

    HMCS Bonaventure I believe....called it the "Bonny"....

    Pierre Trudeau cut it up for scrap metal I was told.
     
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    Star Trek Lower Decks had a class of starship called the "Parliament" class. The shipped featured on the show was the USS Vancouver. Maybe you can name them after Canadian cities.
     
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    They're named after cities and regions. Not that we have many ships. Only to scare off illegal fishermen and resupply messed up neighbouring Pacific islands. But China's taken over that role now.
     

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