What would happen if the UK stopped supporting the US?

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  1. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

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    No fried Mars bars? :omg:
     
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    william walker New Member

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    Oh no. Dis-gust-ing. This is where Britain gets it's rep for having bad food from.
     
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    Down with the queen (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)!
    And may the uk be wiped from the pages of time.

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    Britain is illegal by default
     
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    4TH battalion is clearly some sort of irish-American.
     
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    Nope... French canadian nationalist...
     
  6. william walker

    william walker New Member

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    Well I know the Irish national anthem in Irish and a number of Irish words. Still I know the British Grenadiers, Rule Britannia and my favourite tune is Lilliburlero. I also know God Save the Queen, but I think it's a bad but of music, Jerusalem is much better, or Land of Hope and Glory or I vow to thee my country.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ-44GtginU
     
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    william walker New Member

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    Well good luck with that. Wolfe!
     
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    French canadian nationalist? How sad, you couldn't even put on a decent demonstration against William and Kate. Most Canadians love the monarchy or couldn;t care either way.
     
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    Actually, I almost got in trouble because of that song.

    When I was in the ME, I was stationed at a joint forces base, and we had a large contingent of both UK and Aussie airmen and soldiers around regularly. And a couple of nights a month I would volunteer to act as DJ at the recreation tent.

    Well, one night there were a few young Royal Army guys and their Sergeant Major (who was about my age) were near the front of the stage, and one of them yelled at me to play something British. Now I mostly played Classic Rock, so I am sure they expected something like the Stones or Queen.

    Instead, I decided to play God Save The Queen... by the Sex Pistols.

    Two of the kids look like they wanted to come up to the DJ booth and knock my head off, the Sergeant Major started laughing his head off and calmed them both down. He came up and brought me a soda, and told me that was the funniest thing he had seen or heard in ages. Also apparently a lot of kids have never heard the song, since it has been banned on the BBC for decades.

    To this day that is still one of my funniest memories from my deployment.

    [video=youtube;NQbfTAWe3no]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQbfTAWe3no[/video]
     
  10. william walker

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    Yeah it was banned for quite a long time. I can remember there being a documentary about the song on BBC 3 some years.

    You could have just done the classic version of God Save the Queen and sung the whole thing about murdering the Scottish. However that bit is left out at Football and Rugby matches, hahaha.
     
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    Mate, it's all ancient history now - why not let it go?
     
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    Seems that British and European is not as compatible as British and Canadian. I think you should take over Canada, and then invade and conquer the UK, and make them all provinces. US will join forces with the EU, and World War 3 can be fought over the Great Lakes so we don't have to drive half way around the world to get there, save money on gas.
     
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    No I think they want to be part of France. Why I don't know. The US would crush the Canadian/British forces in a matter of weeks.
     
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    may God have mercy on their souls

    france2.jpg
     
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    History tells us this is not true.

    I'm afraid with the American's its a case of 'All the gear, no idea'.
     
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    We've come a long way since muskets.
     
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    Vietnam?
     
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    I try not to get will power confused with firepower. Vietnam still exists because Americans don't have the will to go all out with what we got, like we could have vaporized everything there, turned that country into an uninhabitable wasteland. I suppose the concerns about the Soviets kept us in check, but where are they now? So then we get things like "shock-and-awe" and the so-called Bush Doctrine of preemptive warfare, and it's backed up with the notions that 'containment' policies don't work on Muslim terrorists and suicide bombers. Well now it's gotten to the point where we are literally struggling to contain ourselves. The recent vote in the UK government, that's helpful, buys the world some time, gives the Congress a chance to reconsider policies. And, what better way to show our appreciation and gratitude for their insight and wisdom than by calling them all wankers and blowing raspberries at them?
     
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    Perhaps war has changed somewhat and the military of any country - I'm sure they know this - have to prepare for various forms of war.
     
  20. william walker

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    I am sitting here shaking my head at how Putin just reached over ripped off Obama arse cheek and handed it to him over the Syria issue. In other words Obama just got his arse handed to him by Putin. Obama and Kerry are a disgrace and unfit to lead the "free world". What have I said the British should have tabled a resolution at the UN asked Assad to hand over his chemical weapons to the Russians for destruction through the UN, this would have put the Russians on the back foot in political terms and either prevented a US strike or made the US actions more viable. I even said this to my MP, who missed the vote on Syria because he was at a wedding. I can't quite believe it, but I was correct for once. It doesn't happen very often.
     
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    What would happen? Nothing.
     
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    The way that's playing in the mass media and non Fox cable news shows in the US is that Obama and Kerry are super geniuses who outfoxed Assad, at least so far. I'll be interested in how the network news plays this tonight. That will let me know where the conventional wisdom is. And of course when the President speaks tonight, "Heh my plan worked!" However Putin, and the entire rest of the world doesn't seem to be fooled and it looks to me as if Putin managed to take an embarrassing and amateurish foreign policy being conducted by blowhard idiots and turned it into a victory for Russia. So as Russia escorts us out of the middle east they will be angling to be the power broker there. I can't believe we even bothered to win the cold war when we're turning over our superpower status to Russia voluntarily.
     
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    Yes, Obama is certainly 'incompetent' re foreign policy, but Russia's days are more limited; Russia is being hollowed out economically by Putin's domestic corruption and will be crippled in just a few years, so the U.S. is not really all that worried about some 'victory' that amounts to little.

    As for Britain, they're the ones who invented these 'special relationships', Cameron is currently trying to forge one with India at the moment, but India's establishment isn't biting, as Britain merely throws their 'special relationships' under the bus at the first inconvenience to themselves, only to come around later and pronounce they exist when it's to their advantage, so many countries don't take them seriously; despite all the hubris in the press and among gossip mongers and the uninformed, most countries would choose the U.S. over Europe any day for a relationship, economic or military, so we're not at all worried; Europeans have always been pretty feckless and untrustworthy, and besides France votes with the U.S. more often than Britain ever has, though media impressions try to pretend otherwise.
     
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    Don't give any serious credibility to cable shows, or the MSM; they're filling time between commercials, and few of them know what they're talking about. U.S. policy is shifting East, where the real action is now and will be for the next decade; outside of off-shore money laundering rackets and financial swindling, Britain has nothing to offer anybody anymore. Their jumping up and down and making noises about not supporting the U.S. any more' is just their way of trying to save face re their increasing irrelevance. The U.S. press isn't paying them much notice, and most Americans will never know their 'support' is gone. They're just another market for U.S. entertainment products, musicians and movies and the like.

    We don't need to care what the rest of the world thinks or whether they're fooled or not, really. It's not like the rest of the world has some sort of moral high ground, or ever did a better job of keeping the peace, so whose opinions do we need to care about??? China's? Uganda's? The UN's, that collection of scumbag dictators and gangsters??? There aren't any in a position to wag fingers. After all it was Europeans who created the ME, and then ran off after screwing that up. When they own up to their (*)(*)(*)(*)ups we might consider caring what they think.. We aren't holding our breaths waiting around for that to happen.
     
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    Well I could argue with you about the UK not being the finanical and tax dodging capital of the world through our low regulation and law corruption, but who's going to argue with that?

    Actally it was the Turkish Ottomans that created the problems in the Middle east, the British and French just took them on after WW1. The British creating a the Gulf balance of power thing between Iraq, Saudi and Iran. The UN is to blame for the other stuff with Isreal and the Ottomans for Syria. Of course the USSR and US are to blame for Egypt being a military dictatorship. The Gulf monarchies that was all Britain's doing.
     

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