When will the crying about slavery stop?

Every race and culture did. We are all descendents of slaves at some point or another.

Why is is blacks keep using it as an excuse to play victim and making slavery their identity?


Isn't it time to move on , stop being so lazy, drop the victim mentality, excuses, put in the work and make something of themselves.

 

400 years.

Abram's offspring, God says, will be strangers, sojourners, serving others in a land that is not their own. They will be afflicted or mistreated for 400 years.

 

Slave Trade
International Day of Remembrance of the Victims of Slavery and the Transatlantic Slave Trade
For 400 years, more than 15 million men, women and children were the victims of the tragic transatlantic slave trade, one of the darkest chapters in human history. -UN

 

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About as long as the Romans enslave the Brits....................your point. Weren't those days just as dark?

 

We were never enslaved by the Romans. You don't know anything about us so please, less of the whataboutism

 

The answer is it will never end. You could give your house and all you own yet some, not all, but the same ones that called you racist before will still call you racist after. We should never give reparations.

 

Its an interesting question.

One thing to ask yourself is, how did OTHER slaves do it, such as the Irish, the Indians, and the Chinese? Well, I see only one common thread, and that thread is EXTREME VIOLENCE, esp against your former masters and become the master.

The Irish in Ireland launched a kind of covert war of independence which they won. Prior to that many Irish fled to the U.S. to become slaves in another nation, and then later genociders of Native Americans and owners of Black slaves.

The Indians first largely opted for turning up the volume on violence upon themselves...then blackmailed their English masters for independence by agreeing to fight in WW2.

The Chinese had to fight tooth and nail to get the Japanese out.

Far too few Black Americans fought in the U.S. Civil War to feel they made a difference. Those who did fight were not given the respect they deserved. Slavery just morphed into Jim Crow, Sunset Laws, chain gangs, and segregation/ apartheid. Civil rights movements saw somewhat limited violence and did not result in an overthrow and any form of Black domination.

So....slavery bled slowly on through segregation for 100 years....and still bleeds on for 60 years after the end of segregation and will bleed on for a while without a violent overthrow. How long? Well....that probably depends on wealth distribution most of all.

But here is the problem. If I steal a gold mine from you, and make you slave in it for me...you are not going to call it square if I just give your freedom and set you off with nothing while I keep the gold and the mine. If I give you a paying job at the mine, you still won't call it square. If you make enough money to go once again buy and run your own gold mine, you may be willing to let bygones be bygones....but....I look the chart and it says Black Americans are still most likely to be in poverty.

Had they got their 40 acres and a mule (means of production) it might be different.

Even my poor @$$ country upbringing was loads better than some inner city slum upbringing. I was privileged in a way, despite being poor, but they were certainly underprivileged and oppressed for having to reclaim lost wealth through drudgery and having a broken line of culture where mine was extremely intact and handed down generations from the British Isles.

In short I think YOU are ungrateful with no excuse, accusing others of being ungrateful when they have good reason to be so.

 

Almost nobody "makes something of themselves". It takes generations of slow building. It takes generations of parents teaching children to be a bit better than themselves, and also kick them some material wealth too.

People who have had every advantage from birth just love to gloat about how easy everything was for them, while attributing it to their own perceived "smarts and hard work"....while dismissing all that their ancestors did for them...ancestors who just might be tempted to kick their @$$es if they rose from dead, and do it as payment for the ingratitude.

 

I should have said leveraged there, not blackmailed.

 

Yes they were and almost as long as slavery in the Americas.
Do you really believe the slavery in the Americas was the only slavery in the history of rhe world or the worst slavery any group every experience?

 

Please provide proof that the Brits were slaves to Romans in Britain. Thanks.

 

https://www.romanobritain.org/2-arl_life/arl_slavery.php

 

It's a little silly to consider the behavior of past humans to be a legitimate objective.

And, until we have education and equal opportunity, features key to employment, our racism is unlikely to be reduced.

 

The idea that slavery is based on war just doesn't make sense.

I think we all know that slaughter is a key component, but it has nothing WHAT SO EVER to do with morality.

Look at the USA today. We buy gigantic bombs with our tax dollars and then hand them to Israel to drop on starving populations living under tents.

 

No mention there of slaves in Britain.

Next time, read your source, first.

 

The are simple answers:
Because Black man slavery happened very recently, the White men slavery happened few hundred years ago.
Black are very easy to recognize and today in the US it is very easy to recognize people whose ancestors could be slaves
There was difference between Black slavery and White 'slavery': chattel slavery was practiced with African individuals but there was not White chattel slavery, some White were indentured servants rather than slaves.
After the slavery was abolished, there was a long period of Black people discrimination

What is strange, that American Blacks accuse only Whites for slavery, but slavery was practiced also by Blacks and Arabs. American slavery was abolished in December 6, 1865, when the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified, but:

Cuba – Slavery was abolished in 1886.

Brazil – formally ended the practice in 1888 with the passage of the Lei Áurea (Golden Law)

Ethiopia - slavery was officially abolished in 1942

Saudi Arabia and Yemen – Slavery continued in these countries well into the 20th century. Saudi Arabia and Yemen officially abolished slavery in 1962, under international pressure.

Mauritania – Slavery was officially abolished in 1981

 

As it stated in the article about Romans in Britain they enslaved all around the world. Are you alleging the Romans did NOT engage in slavery?

"Capture during war saw many enslaved, especially during the Republican period (509 BC to 27 BC). As a result, origins of those enslaved shifted with Rome's geographical expansion. Augustus' pacification of the Mediterranean, at the end of the 1st century BC, reduced the number of people enslaved through warfare. Still, the supply of captives continued thanks to the conquest of new territories such as Britain and Dacia (modern-day Romania), frontier warfare, and the suppression of revolts.

Romans also traded enslaved people across and within the borders of Roman territory. In imperial times (27 BC to AD 476), imported people could come from areas just beyond the Roman frontiers – Ireland, Scotland, Eastern European countries bordering the Rhine and Danube, the Black Sea area, the Arabian Peninsula and Africa. "
https://www.britishmuseum.org/exhibitions/nero-man-behind-myth/slavery-ancient-rome

Britain, slavery and the trade in enslaved Africans
Marika Sherwood
British slaves
British involvement in slavery is over 2,000 years old, but not in what is now the accepted perspective. Cicero noted in about 54 BC that the 'British' enslaved by Julius Caesar 'were too ignorant to fetch fancy prices in the market'. The enslavement of the people of this outpost of the Roman Empire continued for hundreds of years as we know that Pope Gregory spoke with some British slaves in the slave market in Rome in the seventh century AD. (12)
https://archives.history.ac.uk/history-in-focus/Slavery/articles/sherwood.html

 

LOTS of slaves were are result of wars between various factions including slaves in Africa. And the persons being targeted by the Israeli's started a war with them and use their own people as shields so blame them in another thread where the topic is being discussed instead of attempting to divert here.

 

First ever post I've agreed with of yours!

 

Wow! So you agree that Blacks in Africa were more pro-slavery than Whites in the US?
What happened to you?

 

Slavery in Africa was not race based. It was punishment for criminals or prisoners of war. In America it was race based and punishment for being born black. Big difference and the single most horrific practice ever conducted in human history

 

Absolutely not. In Africa there ware slave expeditions, people where caught and enslaved, after European and Americans refused to buy them, they were sold in Africa. American slavery ended in 1865, but in some African countries slavery existed for many years:

Ethiopia - slavery was officially abolished in 1942

Saudi Arabia and Yemen – Slavery continued in these countries well into the 20th century. Saudi Arabia and Yemen officially abolished slavery in 1962, under international pressure.

Mauritania – Slavery was officially abolished in 1981

Yes, in America slavery was race based, the same as in Africa. I am not aware that in Africa Whites were subject to slavery from the mid-1800s.

So I was right claiming that Blacks in Africa were more pro-slavery than Whites in the US, especially after 1865.

 

Is that really how you view morality?

 

nothing you posted refutes my comment of:
Slavery in Africa by Africans (not Arabs and even then, the Arab slave trade was not race based since no laws were written about black or white folk being born into slavery) was not race based. It was punishment for criminals or prisoners of war. In America it was race based and punishment for being born black. Big difference and the single most horrific practice ever conducted in human history