When Will The Left Learn Vaccinations Do NOT Stop The Spread?

That’s probably because we have reached a point where there are more vaxxed people than unvaxxed. I’ll bet your aunt doesn’t see more vaxxed people dying or on ventilators than unvaxxed.

I was fully vaccinated last February, and I got Covid in July. My symptoms were mild and short lived. But it did cause me to go to a health care setting to get tested. So people like me may be the same as a lot of the people she sees - vaccinated people who have caught the disease. But what is important is OUTCOMES, not how many vaccinated people get Covid and go to a health care setting to get tested.

I will not take the time it takes to play a “sources” game with you. The information is out there, and it is convincing. It’s not even close. But if you are so invested in your point of view that you will only accept information that validates your point of view, I cannot overcome that with links and sources.

I do have personal experience with the disease, however. I’m 66 years old, and I believe the vaccination helped me have a positive outcome. 5 days after I tested positive I couldn’t even tell I’d been sick. I’ve had ordinary bouts with the flu in the past that were worse than my bout with Covid.

Seth

 

In the UK and in pretty much every other highly shot population in the world. Iceland, Israel, and many other countries. Illinois high school students and Harvard and many other woke schools.

 

When will politically partisan scum on all sides learn that using a pandemic to feed their political hatred is unconscionably immoral?

 

Um, no.

The issue is about the level of protection actually offered, and how much that level of protection compares to other types of common precautions.

You seem to be viewing this as some sort of black and white issue, like you are either protected or you are not. That's not the reality.

That would be like me saying "If you don't want to catch the cold, drink orange juice. You are either protected or you are not."
See how that's kind of absurd?

 

No

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

 

I'll learn that when it starts to be true. I actually had the virus so I'm more protected against getting it again than you are. If you don't believe that don't get any boosters.

 

That is a total BS.
Most of the those who has died from COVID are seniors.
90% of seniors are vaccinated.

 

The article was correct when it was written in June

 

Right, and we are done with Wuhan virus.
But leftist media continuously pushes it as current information, even though they know it is a lie.
Why people should take anything seriously that is coming out of leftist media and their government?

 

Even now, 9-10 months after their second dose, vaccinated death rate is still half of the unvaccinated death rate for people over 60.

 

Unvaxxed are scapegoats for covid failure

Enough is enough

 

When "the left" trusts politicians and media entertainers rather than public health experts and doctors in medical matters.

After COVID-19 vaccines arrived, Republican voters in Florida and Ohio died at a higher rate than their counterparts, according to a new study.

Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before."

More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility was opened.

The different rates "were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio," according to the study that was published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine on Monday.

It's the latest research to suggest the perils of mixing partisan politics with medical advice and health policy.

[https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189939229/covid-deaths-democrats-republicans-gap-study]

Pro-Trump counties continue to suffer far higher COVID death tolls

Of course, even their deities can accede to reality eventually:
Trump urges all Americans to get COVID vaccine:


"It's a safe vaccine and it works!"



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Your post has nothing to do with my post you quoted. When will the left realize that the vaccinated spread the virus?

 

So, if approx. 80% (around 270 million people) of Americans were vaccinated, and .01% ended up hospitalized in her ward, that would be about 27,000.
And if of the other 70 million, if .03% ended up hospitalized, she would see about 21,000. So technically, a greater percentage of unvaxxed could
be showing up in her hospital, but she would still see fewer of them than vaxed.

And if Google is not to be trusted by your readers, you think that an unknown "aunt" of your should be more trusted ...? Whatever, dude.

 

The only people who thought the vaccine "cured" the virus were the nut jobs. The goal was to lessen the burden on hospitals by reducing
the most severe cases. And we do see that he over-flowing ICU problem was decreased as the vaccine was spread. THAT was the goal.

 

The left, all the way up to Biden, claimed the vaccine stopped the spread of the virus. In fact, they fired people from their jobs for not being vaccinated, claiming they would spread the virus when the truth is both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated spread the virus. Therefore, there was no need to fire people from their jobs for not being vaccinated. They also refused to let the unvaccinated into places such as sporting events claiming they would spread the virus when the truth is both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated spread the virus. Therefore, there was no need to refuse the admittance of people to places for not being vaccinated.

 

With all the cranks pissing on effective medicine, it's important that vulnerable folks who are still in denial of reality be informed that "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before."

 

Will you admit that vaccines don't stop the spread of the virus?

 

Let's not forget, there were a lot of unknowns about this virus in the early days as it spread. We can back-seat drive a bit more now, but the research is
going to be coming in for decades. The right seems to have a short attention span and forgets the over-flowing hospitals at the time.

 

But, in retrospect, if we had done things the right's way, the pandemic would have ended sooner, but with more deaths. Yes, Trump was working with limited knowledge in the beginning but he's the one who speeded up the vaccine which lowered the number of deaths.

 

That would be irrational.

The vaccines were successful in significantly reducing the chances of contracting covid.

If one doesn't contract the virus, one can't transmit it.

In clinical trials, all three vaccines authorized in the U.S. were found to be safe and effective at preventing severe COVID-19 cases. Since then, public health officials have acknowledged the shots aren't 100% effective at preventing infection – and research suggests immunity wanes over time...

Experts and public health officials say they do protect people from getting infected and spreading the virus.

Fact check: COVID-19 vaccine protects both the person vaccinated and those around them

Akiko Iwasaki, a professor of immunobiology and molecular, cellular and developmental biology at Yale University: "Vaccines provide significant protection from 'getting it' – infection – and 'spreading it' – transmission – even against the delta variant."​

[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ct-against-infection-transmission/6403678001/]​

 

Roughly 187M people were "fully vaccinated" (per CDC data) as of the time of my post, not 270M (which is the CDC number for "at least one dose" as of today's date), so your calculations are wrong because you are using information re: today as if it applied to September/October of 2021. I also don't trust the CDC data regarding jabs. I think plenty less people actually got the jabs that what was reported.

 

Seth, my brother also had a covid experience with similar symptoms as yours- and he was not vaccinated. He was also 83 years old.
I think that like most diseases, the individual's immune system can have a substantial impact on symptoms and severity. It would certainly be an improvement however if the things they tell us were not being affected by politics or the influence of big pharma, so we could have confidence in what we think we know, and make informed decisions.