Where Progressives are going with the statue removals

Here ya go:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/arti...hen-he-says-were-not-a-judeo-christian-nation

So while you might find an out of text quote in some obscure "treaty", there is plenty of proof you are wrong.

 

Rightists are not a danger to the USA because they support bedrock principles like private property, freedom of speech and assembly, and due process, even for Leftists.

Now compare the Antifa ....

 

1. This doesn't prove that America was founded as a "Christian nation." Your religious copypasta propaganda proves that the Founding Fathers were shrewd politicians who knew the importance of playing to religious sensibilities in colonial America. Most of the Founding Fathers were non-religious. (In fact, not one asked for a clergyman to be present at his deathbed.)

2. I asked you to back up your claim that I was taking the Treaty of Tripoli out of context. Let's stay on topic.

3. Am I arguing with you, or am I arguing with every random website you plan on quoting at me?

 

Everyone supports these concepts.

 

The hard Left does not. Antifa does not.

 

I did not claim America was founded as a christian nation. My claim is that it was founded on Judeo Christian principles. Your strawman is duly noted.

 

So you can suppress the opinions of others, certainly.

The ability to express whatever opinion I may have, without interference from the state.

 

That is the way it has to be.

 

What is the way it has to be? The suppression of free speech?
Why does it have to be that way?

 

You see the alternative in the topic of this thread. People arguing back and fourth endlessly, about everything.

I see the logic in why you want to express your opinion freely, though why care about others with opposing views?

 

You can express whatever opinion you want. No one has to listen.

 

Then what would be the point?

Also, do you have no issue with opposing viewpoints just because you can ignore them?

 

I have no issue with opposing viewpoints because you have the right to believe what you want and express that belief.

 

I see. That is true, at least for a large percentage of the developed world. Though this is just out of curiosity, wouldn't you rather have citizens and politicians advocating against the Second Amendment to be silenced?

 

Nope. When presented to reasoned, thinking people, absurd and fallacious arguments silence themselves.

 

I haven't seen them stay silent. Hopefully they don't succeed. Also, I suppose I am just more opposed to mental pluralism than others. If you really don't mind what opposing sides say, then maybe in some ways you are more fortunate than I am. At least in the sense that life is far more tolerable.

 

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That is exactly what Marxists want you to believe. They want you to believe that their ideology is their answer to religion in the here and now, a utopia that will give you everything you will need in this world.

 

You're probably right. But if they really do want me to believe suppressing private corporations that offer jobs, food, entertainment, and various products with ultra-high taxes, redistributing my property and the money I earn, is my idea of utopia, they're even more foolish than I thought. I have my own way of thinking and my own answers to religion. Thank you for your response though, Wehrwolfen.

 

They're the same thing.

 

The "hard left"? Lol. I think you listen to too much Limbaugh and Hannity.

FYI, the right has spent so long denying the rights of gays and minorities and non-Christians.

 

No they are not.

 

George Berkeley (/ˈbɑːrkli/;[1][2] 12 March 1685 – 14 January 1753) — known as Bishop Berkeley (Bishop of Cloyne) — was an Irish philosopher whose primary achievement was the advancement of a theory he called "immaterialism" (later referred to as "subjective idealism" by others). This theory denies the existence of material substance and instead contends that familiar objects like tables and chairs are only ideas in the minds of perceivers and, as a result, cannot exist without being perceived. Berkeley is also known for his critique of abstraction, an important premise in his argument for immaterialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berkeley


In 1866, the private College of California purchased the land comprising the current Berkeley campus. Because it lacked sufficient funds to operate, it eventually merged with the state-run Agricultural, Mining, and Mechanical Arts College to form the University of California, the first full-curriculum public university in the state.

Ten faculty members and almost 40 students made up the new University of California when it opened in Oakland in 1869.[31] Frederick H. Billings was a trustee of the College of California and suggested that the college be named in honor of the Anglo-Irish philosopher George Berkeley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Berkeley

No wonder Berkeley students have trouble with reality, what gender, race, and sexual orientation they are irrespective of scientific evidence, since such evidence is often material substance.

 

The hard Left means Marxists for the most part, not liberal Democrats. If you don't think Marxists are real and that they think that the notion of "Rights" (e.g., free speech) is nothing but a bourgeois construct, to be ignored where it benefits the emancipation of the proletariat, then you're simply uninformed.

Let me help:

On the morning of Donald Trump's inauguration, Keval Bhatt hunted through a closet in his parents' Virginia home for the darkest clothes he could find.

The 19-year-old didn't own much in black, the color he knew his fellow protesters would wear head to toe on the streets of Washington that day.

As Bhatt drove into the city for his first-ever protest, he

Bhatt joined protesters dressed completely in black, some with their faces covered by masks -- a tactic known as "black bloc" that aims to unify demonstrators' efforts and hide their identities.

And with them, Bhatt got arrested.

He was rounded up with more than 200 other people and charged with a felony for inciting a riot.

Many of those arrested identified themselves as part of the Antifa movement. Its name derives from "anti-fascist," and it has come to represent what experts who track these organizations call the "hard left" -- an ideology that runs afield of the Democratic Party platform and supports oppressed populations as it protests the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites.

While Antifa members don't fit a single category, they say many are millennials and many live on society's fringes: undocumented immigrants, transgender people, low-wage workers, those who don't conform to the traditional 9-to-5.

And their methods are often violent. Antifa leaders admit they're willing to physically attack anyone who employs violence against them or who condones racism -- as long as force is used in the name of eradicating hatred.

Source : Washington Post

 

You claim that there's a difference the two. What would that be?

 

You want statues?

I say erect statues of Sherman all over Georgia

How would that go?