Where Progressives are going with the statue removals

A snowflake ???

A politically correct warrior who force the vision of a few upon all in society.

The Taliban are SJW's.

 

Your thread has been featured in my thread which tracks threads that spread wild generalizations about liberals:
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ne-liberal-said.513730/page-3#post-1067976506

Where Progressives are going with the statue removals by Brewskier
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...es-are-going-with-the-statue-removals.512416/
Conservative claims that since liberals want to take down Confederate statues that means they want to take down statues of the founding fathers and get rid of the constitution. He tries to support the claim that they want to take down statues of the founding fathers because Al Sharpton apparently wants to.

 

Vermont, Texas, California, and other states have at time fantasized about secession. Let me know when any do, and what the consequences are.

You can hold whatever you like to hold. That does not mean that Americans must endure, on US public land, monuments, mostly erected by racists during the Jim Crow and Civil Rights eras, to individuals who turned on the United States, rejected its Constitution, and killed US soldiers and sailors to perpetuate keeping families in bondage for profit, and extending that vile practice into new territories.

 

If you believe that it is "moral" to keep families in bondage for profit, and to kill Americans to extend that vile practice into new territories, your idea of "tyranny" is, most likely, equally dubious.

 

I didn't give you permission to do so. Reported.

 

If we secede, here in CA, I presume then Trump has your permission to invade CA with the Federal Army.

You keep arguing over statues that your party leaders erected. I do not have a negative view of statues, not even those of Martin L King. A man publicly assassinated for his views. A man stalked by our own FBI and a dossier on him made by those agents.

Were Democrats trying to pull down his statue, I would also reject that as an abuse to history.

 

If the government in question refuses to remove said statues - yes you do.

 

Slavery was an accepted practice in the US. The Southern states entered into the union with the expectation that it would remain so.

When a political faction of religious fanatics decides to impose their morality on others, that is tyranny. What do you call it?

You are going to have to decide whether your objection to Confederate statues is based on their support of slavery or their war against Northern tyranny.

If the former you will have to support the destruction of the Jefferson Memorial, if the later you will have to argue that the North wasn't tyrannical.

 

I see the black family a bit different than you see them.

I see them as provided adequate shelter, food, clothes, daily work, all that is needed to keep food in their belly and sustenance.

It is similar to when I was in the Army. I got food, shelter and life support from the masters and managed to survive.

Slaves got benefits. To ignore those is not wise. Many slaves were so used to their life, they saw it as normal. They had no other standard to use.

 

You need someone's permission to make a comment on their post? Where is that in the rules? If it is I will have my thread taken down. If you are making a post on a forum anything you post is fair game for others to comment on.
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Actually he doesn't so your post is a lie

 

I am willing to make a correction if I misinterpreted. But this is what i see:
The current push by the left and their media against Confederate statues is a stepping stone towards invalidating the Constitution. After they are done removing all national monuments related to the Confederacy, including Stone Mountain, they will start pushing for the removal of anything related to the Founding Fathers who owned slaves, like Jefferson, Washington, Madison, and the rest. Al Sharpton and several others have already expressed a desire to get rid of the Jefferson memorial. Once they achieve this, their next argument, which is an argument they have been making for a while but have not had much traction with, is that the Constitution was written by slave owning racist white men, and has no validity in today's society. That's the goal. The Constitution limits what progressives can do in society, and they intend to get rid of it.

 

al sharpton never said that. getting rid of confederate monuments is a simple move to civility nothing more. you are deeply deeply paranoid

 

What I said was the OP claims that Al Sharpton wants to get rid of monuments to the founders:
"He tries to support the claim that they want to take down statues of the founding fathers because Al Sharpton apparently wants to."

This is based on what the OP said here:
"Al Sharpton and several others have already expressed a desire to get rid of the Jefferson memorial."

 

I could not discredit you any more thoroughly than you have just befouled yourself.

 

Buying, selling, and holding people in bondage for profit was a practice that many once tolerated, just as it is now universally recognized as immoral, and we do not now honour individuals with monuments in the United States who turned on the United States, rejected the Constitution of the United States, fought and killed soldiers and sailors of the United States, to perpetuate the vile practice and spread it to new territories.

 

Sure we do. Just look at all the monuments to the Confederacy.

It is just a bunch of soreheads who despise the White man and his civilization who are creating all this commotion.

 

Much to the chagrin of a residue of rabid racists, their symbols of racism are coming down via the democratic process that they hate.

Progress is happening.

 

And how is that progress?

Is Baltimore now a better city because it removed statues? Are there fewer murders? Are there fewer addicts? Just how do you figure this is progress?

This is all a distraction from the failure of Progressives to actually do any actual good in the world.

When was the last time Progressives actually built something rather than destroying things? Destruction is easy and rarely progressive.

 

Getting rid of statues to traitors is always a good thing

 

Do you think the English should tear down the statue of George Washington in Trafalgar Square? Would that be a "good thing?"

Who is and isn't a traitor is a subjective judgement. Robert E. Lee didn't sell out his people. He defended them. But he lost, is all:

Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.



The Left is just looking to tear the country apart in a fit of pique over their bungled election.

Tearing down a statue won't do a whit of good for this country.

 

MLK was not a communist, nor was he a "traitor" (whatever that means).

Well, I prefer freedom fighters along the lines of Washington. You can keep your Lee.

 

Washington is on the correct side of history. Robert E Lee is not.

 

1. MLK fought and died for civil rights. You can call him whatever you want.

2. Are there any Lincoln statues near the Lee ones?

No? Gee. Wonder why.

 

LEE was a traitor and caused the death of many thousands