Who Is Behind The Alleged Attacks On Saudi Arabia?

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The socialist in Sacrament will.

    Higher gas prices in California means more tax revenues to be spent on illegal aliens.
     
  2. Margot2

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    The ppb was too low for the risks to domestic producers. The was the reason for the original Peak Oil propaganda push in 1956.

    I spent 2 decades in Saudi Arabia and have known several members of the Sudeiri Seven since the early 1950s.
     
  3. Draco

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    Long winded, completely fictitious answers like this is exactly why Progressive/Communist media outlets all over the internet are failing.

    ThinkProgress was the latest to go, Buzzfeed and Vox all completely losing money.

    Peoplare sick of these long winded, completely made up stories. They are all based on "feelings" and not on anything else, these people write long "op eds" with incredibly invasive and aggressive verbiage, all to push their political agenda.

    In this case it is Communism, they want to have control of everything and Trump is the greatest threat against that. Thankfully the American people are now just laughing at Progressives and the stories they tell (like the one above).

    Every see's these "journalists" for what they actually are, Charlestons.
     
  4. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Speaking of that, have any of the dems running for president proposed free gasoline for illegals yet?
     
  5. Draco

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    Yes but the Progressives/Communists don't

    They want a war because it will cause turmoil and hurt Trump, its insane what they will do to attack him.
     
  6. Primus Epic

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    Similar refrain as: "The holocaust never happened." The axe swings both ways. If the Israeli's did not invade then the British did on their behalf with the Balfour Declaration.


    Western propaganda baked into the consciousness of those who have not done the homework. The two biggest sponsors of terror the middle east has ever known was Great Britain and the United States.

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    How much more of this can you stomach? I won't blindly support this by choosing to be and remain ignorant to its Truth.


    Define, "Jew?" Define, "Jewish?" Define "Jew" geographically, historically, ethnically and genetically. Be accurate and verifiable in your definitions. Religious undertones are not definition of that which is geographic, historical, ethnic and especially not genetic. Give me something to research. Give me something real that I can sink my teeth into that helps me to understand exactly where on earth "Jews" originate. Can you do that? I mean, really - can you?

    My point here is that you cannot do that - any of that. And, there is a very good reason for this fact. You cannot simply because there is no such thing as a "Jew" with historical, geographical, ethnic and most certainly not genetic roots and origin anywhere on planet earth. Period. The Science of Genetics has already proven this fact. Yet, somehow, you missed the memo. Why? Why do you and so many other clueless American peers of mine continually miss the memo?

    You've been supporting False Statehood since inception and you've never taken the time to UNDERSTAND the history behind this lie. If you had, then you would know that these people now calling themselves "Jew" are in fact Eastern Europeans who were once Turks and who NEVER had a point of origin in Palestine and were NEVER Hebrew in genetic definition. They did not Exodus out of "Egypt," because the land was NOT called "Egypt" at the time. It was called Kemet and it was the land of my Ancestors. My People, originated in that land and they were Kemetains. Before them were Nubians, Ethiopians, Khoisan and Kush. They go back many thousands of years before anyone penned (fabricated) the Bible's so-called "New Testament." Thousands of years before there was anything civilized in that land there was the Kingdom of Kush.

    Now, you were going to define what you believe to be a "Jew." Be my guest. Try it.
     
  7. Margot2

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    Who wants a war? I can't follow your thinking here. Trump said he was locked and loaded.
     
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    That's called posturing, to let our enemies know we will not just roll over and ask "why do they hate us," if it's ever proven US citizens or US interests were attacked by Iran.
     
  9. Margot2

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    Now they are saying Iranian missiles not drones and they came from southern Iraq.

    I'd like them to be sure before they shoot off their mouths.
     
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    Most drillers do not make a profit. The reason drilling took off was easy borrowing. It was easy to set up a drilling company pay yourself a 7 figure salary and operate slightly in the red while refinancing loans to keep the whole thing going. The slight bump in interest pushed many drillers in to a major cash flow problem and now they are mostly a hop skip and a jump from bankrupt. War and the resulting price spike would help them eminsly
     
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    I mean why not, isn't gasoline a human right?
     
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    Yep.. That's how it is in the US.
     
  13. Primus Epic

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    That's interesting because I did not know that it was possible to be killed as a Member of our US Military, if you were not in theater. That story is amazing, because during my time in the Military, I never heard of any US Military Personnel being killed by Russian built hand grenades without actually being on the ground in theater and right smack in the middle of a hot zone. And, where MRAPs are concerned, the moment you get penetrated once, that's something you bring to TOC immediately so that improvisation is made manifest at the command and control level. Bradleys and Abrams were "resistant" - not impenetrable. Moreover, Iran, never developed that tech on their own. They were however, used by and consulted with Russia. So, if you are coming under attack by Iranians, then where were you exactly? Were you on US soil? If so, I'l re-up right now and help. I have not flown a sortie in a long time, but I still know how to run a TACAN.

    My point? We should get he hell out of that region. Period. We have no business being there and we never did. Talking about what happens when we set-up shop in someone's backyard and then provoke them to engaging us is moot - absolutely pointless.

    I get the "mission." Been there done that. I understand "orders." Carried out plenty in my time. What makes no sense is the Policy. That must change. And, if you do not understand the History of Israel, how it came into existence, who drove it into existence and what their ultimate goal is for the rest of the world, then you are missing the real salient point here.

    Who said Israelis were your enemy? I said Zionists were your biggest threat. You need to do more homework. You are missing a LOT of vital information about that region of the world.
     
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    Iran says it seized another tanker in the Gulf after Aramco ...

    https://www.businessinsider.com › iran-seized-another-tanker-in-the-gulf-a...

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    "The boat's 11 crew members have been handed over to legal authorities," Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Brig. Gen. Ali Ozmaei told Iran's state-run Press TV. ... "It was detained near Iran's Greater Tunb island in the Persian Gulf...the crew have been handed over to legal ...
     
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    I think you are way off the map on this one. Trump has been less of a neocon than previous admins - both Red and Blue - so how Trump getting re-elected is inspiring "fear" .. I do not understand.

    Iran has not been trying to provoke the US - other than standing up for their sovereignty - which is expected.

    Iran shot down a Drone - just off its borders and in what they consider their air space - because it was spying on them. Nothing surprising about that. We would do the same thing if an Iranian drone was scouting our military assets just a few miles off our coast.

    The Houthi issue something completely different .. not to be conflated with other things.

    1) we don't know if Iran did this - and I am certainly not going to take an Administration who has a track record of lying their faces off's word for it.

    2) What I think we can say is that Iran gave the Houthi's the drones - which is a completely different thing than "Iran did it".

    So what ? What is wrong with Iran supporting the Houthi's ? Saudi Arabia has been bombing the sh't out of Yemen for years .. committing war crimes and humanitarian atrocities. Trump didn't complain about any of that .. in fact he vetoed congress in their attempt to stop Arming Saudi Arabia due to their heinous atrocities.

    Now Trump is going to complain because the Houthi's hit back ? What a fckn Joke

    Once again this is "do as we say not as we do" and hypocrisy to the high heavens ... and the world is starting to tire of these antics. '

    Go "Houthi's" ... That's right ... "Go Houthis" It is about time El Saud got some payback.

    If you want to be on the side of Al Qaeda/ISIS - along with the Trump Clown and the Establishment - you are welcome to your choice.

    But wait - you started your post with calling (Al Qaeda, ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, Islamist jihadist, Taliban,) our enemies ?

    This is who the Houthi's are trying to kill these Islamist nut jobs and trying to stop these nut jobs from taking over their nation and imposing Saudi Style Salafi Strict Sharia Totalitarianism.

    So which is it ? Are you on the side of Al Qaeda and the Islamist Extremists (of which there is no more extreme than El Saud) or the Houthi's ?

    Or .. like me - do you think we should just stay the heck out of that hornets nest and let the Islamist's continue killing each other ?
     
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    Iran seized another tanker today... They just poked Trump in the nose.
     
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    They'll use him if and when they can. Just like they used Jr. and just like they used Obama, who continued Jr.'s policies and even took some of them to new heights with drones. What we did with drones was unprecedented in all of military history and it mostly took place under Obama. He's no saint just because he's Black like me.

    We have a real problem in this country with genuine Education and genuine Honesty. We are in Total Moral Decay and the writing is on the wall. This is why The People, can't pull themselves together long enough to take back their government and make it morally upright. We suffer because we are collectively dumbed down and we don't know enough truth to know just how far down the rabbit hole we have fallen.

    It is sickening to watch happen in real-time. We are collective Cowards. We cannot pull ourselves to admit that we got screwed on 911, and that we've been getting played in prime time ever since. The 2007/2008 so-called "economic crisis" was engineered to bankrupt the American People and shift wealth to those who staged it. They continue to screw us because we have reached a level of Reprobate Mind, so unimaginably disconnected from truth that it is hard to even contemplate just how ignorant we are collectively.

    Trillions in debt and planing another war in the middle east. Who thinks like that? Who does something like that? Who is going to pay for the next multi-trillion dollar take-over of natural resources that we don't own or have rights to? Your children's, children's, children's, children will pay for it as Total Economic Slaves to the system that owns them.

    This needs to stop. It is high time for The People to awaken themselves, or be awakened. Future generations of American yet unborn depend on what we do next.
     
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    Those same "US Sources" told you that a Boeing 757-200 slammed into Shanksville and Arlington.

    Well, I don't buy it until I can verify it. It does not rhyme as much as Ronald Reagan's coined statement, but the idea is exactly the same.

    "There was no airplane. No airplane."
    "The plane does not fit in that hole. So, what did hit the Pentagon. What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?"
    "US. sources confirmed that the attacks came from Iran."

    One of these things is not like the other two. Can you tell which one that is?
     
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    The economic crisis was absolutely predictable and began in the second quarter of 2001.. not too long after the dot com mess.
     
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    Israel got that terroritory during the 6 day war.
    Palestine wasn’t a independent country.

    No Iran is the largest state sponsor of terror
     
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    Lol, what are you talking about? You are aware we were in Iraq, right? And yes, we were attacked by RKG-3s, supplies by Iranians. Dropped by an insurgent onto our lead Humvee that killed the driver and severely wounded the gunner. The radio saved the TC.

    The pieces of the rockets retrieved during crater analysis showed very plainly that they were from Iran. Iran was, and remains our enemy. They certainly showed insurgents how to create EFP’s, making them more effective against us.

    Enlighten me on this big Zionist plan for global domination.
     
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    Iran says it seized another tanker in the Gulf after Aramco … TODAY

    https://www.businessinsider.com › iran-seized-another-tanker-in-the-gulf-a...


    "The boat's 11 crew members have been handed over to legal authorities," Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Brig. Gen. Ali Ozmaei told Iran's state-run Press TV. ... "It was detained near Iran's Greater Tunb island in the Persian Gulf...the crew have been handed over to legal ...
     
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    More conspiracy crap from a fringe 9/11 truther.
     
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    They seem to be provoking the chicken hawk known as President Bonespur. Perhaps this would be a good time to have an experienced National Security Adviser............ooops.........President Sharpie just fired his 3rd one.
    Giving the Liar-in-Chief a pretense to attack Iran may be just what Capt. Chaos wants since his poll number are circling the golden toilet bowl.
     

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