Who The NRA Really Speaks For

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Nat Turner, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. 1up2down

    1up2down New Member

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    they want to register gun owners so they can match them up with voter records and send their Gestapo thugs after them. God forbid you be a tea party supporter and own a gun.

    Gun registration is all about creating a list. They want to know exactly who and where all these gun owners are and what they have.

    those that think they are trying to protect the public are just naive. You dont create soft target zones and sell baby parts to protect the public. Its about mapping out the enemy which they have already labeled as terrorists. Luckily more people have been able to see through this tactic now than ever which is why gun and ammo sales continue to rise while the NRA gets record amounts of support.

    the citizenry know whats going on. All this talk of common sense, compromise etc etc doesn't work because work gun owners already did give in a lot and the progressives just keep pushing farther to the point that innocent people are getting killed because they are christians. There is no more "GIVE" or "Compromise" in the gun ownership and the numbers are growing more and more every day. Its getting to the point where more and more people are just ignoring gun free zones out of fear for their safety and their families and just packing a concealed carry firearm anyways.

    Americans are simple not going to give up their right to protect themselves and their families from radical left wing loons, terrorists, or crazy drug induced whatever that want to kill peaceful law abiding citizens who mind their own business. Its not going to happen. this is the USA and the gun culture does not have any gender, sexual orientation, religious, economic, or racial boundaries. Guns are appreciated by all groups in this country and the right to defend you and your loved ones is cherished now more than ever.

    Put it this way...if you see me out with my 3 and 5 year old sons in public I can guarantee you I am fully armed.....WELL with multiple reloads....and also a backup. This is the responsibility and reality of life in america now. The instances will keep happening where people snap and want to commit suicide while destroying the lives of innocent people and you have to be able to protect yourself and those you care about.
     
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    Diuretic Well-Known Member

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    I thought the NRA was primarily about protecting gun and ammo manufacturers.
     
  3. 1up2down

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    a lot of people in the USA make their own guns and ammo. OH the horror. its all legal dont worry.

    we can make knives really well too!

    No kangaroos though. You have us on that one. You also have Rod Laver and Patrick Rafter as well. My personal favorites BTW. I think Rocket is still living in California now though.
     
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    You thought wrong.
     
  5. EddyJ

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    That's mostly because people in Australia don't think for themselves or do independent research, so it's not uncommon to for Aussies to get it all wrong. Like the sheeple in America, they just believe what the dip schlitz on the "telly" tell them to believe, so you're not alone with incorrect assumptions.

    The NRA and Donald Trump continue to grow in popularity for the very same reasons. They are also both feared by the left and their blind followers for those very same reasons. I'll let you do some independent research and see if you come up with what those reasons are...don't worry, I won't wait for a reply. :roflol:

    The gun and ammo manufacturers don't need the NRA for their success. You seem to forget that many those same businesses are first and foremost government contractors, supplying the government with weapons and ammunition to be used against those who dare defy the government..foreign or domestic.

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    The ignorance of the left is the real disgrace to America.
     
  6. Nat Turner

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    What a terrible thing to go through life always afraid and paranoid. On a human level it is so sad.
     
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    thats where your wrong. I am not afraid to go out in public one bit with my family because I know I have at least a fair chance against a threat to myself or those I care about should something happen. Its those that are just sitting ducks or soft targets that have reason for concern. They have become victims of propaganda. Now THAT is sad on a human level. The very notion that your life and those around is not worth the effort to defend against evil. Very sad indeed.

    If you are so inclined though feel free to not lock your doors while at home night or day. Home security is another area where people are wide open. I can tell you after taking steps to layer security around the home that I sleep well knowing my family is much more protected.

    I guess I am just a bit more proactive than most. All of these measures are fairly cheap. You don't have to be rich. You do however have to get over whatever fear and denial issues you may have....which is difficult for some who have just given in to the propaganda.
     
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    Thomas Jefferson said that the "natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground." In most respects I have watched this happen over my lifetime. We have definitely evolved into a "papers, please" (said w/ German accent) society that was mocked in every popular movie about WWII that I saw as a kid. As pogo said, we have met the enemy, and they are us.

    One of few areas where I have seen advances in liberty over my lifetime is in the area of gun rights. In the mid 1980s there were almost no states that allowed concealed carry. Florida passed it in 1987 in the wake of the scarface era, and when it proved to work out well, most other states followed suit, with the exceptions of a small number of deep blue states such as California. Similarly in 2004 the ill-conceived Clinton "assault weapons" ban was allowed to expire by a GOP-controlled congress. Liberty advanced, and government yielded.

    This is 99% due to the NRA, the only effective pro-liberty lobby of my lifetime.
     
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    glloydd95 Well-Known Member

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    Being a lifetime member I can tell you with some certainty that is a load of crap.
     
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    Agreed. Most people like to live their lives by pretending evil doesn't exist and just telling themselves "it won't happen to me". It provides comfort to them living in that fantasy world.

    When they see people like us who take proactive steps in protecting ourselves, our families, and our communities, it simply reminds them that they live in a fantasy world and they can't have that.
     
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    Permanent resident aliens (aka green card holders) are allowed to own guns (and rightfully so).

    Also, a 30 day waiting period would not have stopped any one of the mass shootings that I can remember. For the most part, the mass shooters buy their guns months if not years ahead of time. The VT shooter (highest body count of the mass shooters in the U.S.) only bought low capacity magazines (10 round), and bought his two guns thirty days apart. His second gun was bought over 30 days before the shooting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho
     
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    Except that, in the real world, having a gun in the house increases the chances of being shot. So, when it comes to firearms, they don't actually make you any safer.

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    Perfect example of the type of delusional nut who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a firearm.
     
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    No one is talking about taking away your right to protect yourself. However, just because you are armed does not mean you have a less chance of being targeted or not being armed having a greater chance of being targeted. Most crimes happen based on specific situations or locations. For example, you are more than likely to be attacked or targeted where alcohol is involved along with guns, knives, etc. Certain areas of town may also factor in a greater chance. But gun free zones where there are children do not increase the liklihood of un violence. The pyschological effect of tartgeting a school does that usually represent some repressive feelings of authority that schools represent.

    That being said, there are about 95 million Americans who own guns. I am one of them as well as many others on this forum. But there are only 4.5 million members who are with the NRA. The stats by all gun owners represent what all gun owners want within reason. But lobbyists, fear mongering, and anti government conspiracy theories usually doom even the most reasonable of proposed laws to try to limit the availability of ifrearms from felons, minors, and the mentally ill.
     
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    DUH....it also increases the chances of being able to defend yourself. Pretty simple. Learn how to handle a firearm and treat them with respect.

    Guess what....having a knife in your house increases the chances of getting cut. Having food in your house increases the chances of eating.

    by all means though....if you cant handle the responsibility of owning a firearm don't get one until you can. and if you do please dont move next to me. Everybody I know in my neighborhood owns firearms and we dont seem to have any problems. I like knowing we are a well armed community. It will help when the riots start.
     
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    Mass shootings represent less than 1% of all gun releated incidents. You are more likely to be struck by lightening, have a serious automobile accident, or have your luggage lost by the airline than to experience "evil" in your lifetime. You may see it on TV news, but that does not represent experience whatsoever.

    This is a false perception that is being relayed by people who do not see reality at all.
     
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    Actually, having a gun doesn't increase the chances of being able to defend yourself. If you don't have some training, you are more likely to kill a family member than defend yourself from a criminal. And few gun owners ever get that training because they were fooled by some nut who told them having a gun will make them safer. Having a gun just increases the chances that you'll get shot.
     
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    So you prefer the NY Slime and more central control of citizens. Got it.
     
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    You thought wrong. Propaganda does that.
     
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    It just seems odd to me that the same folks who think guns can be controlled, assure us that people cannot be controlled from entering our country.
     
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    Nice try but spin your agenda to someone who will buy into it. I will support pro gun lobbyists to the end. you can thank me for picking up your slack. There is no more compromise with you anti gunners. I don't care if you own guns or not. compromise and middle ground has done nothing but erode our rights and drive prices up to astronomical levels for machine guns and armor piercing ammo so that only the super rich elitists and government can afford them. We have fought hard to get them back to where they currently are. all your gun laws have done is catered to the super rich make it so the common man has more trouble protecting their families.
     
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    74% of NRA members supported requiring a background check system for all gun sales (source).

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    No, it isn't. Sorry?
     
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    One more 'law abiding and responsible' gun owner nails his extremist views to the listing mast.
     
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    go practice with it so you dont shoot yourself or a family member. Learn about bullet performance so you know the capabilities of the round your firing. You fear mongering is based around ignorance and lack of skill set. These are guns we are talking about. They dont do what you think they should do they do what you MAKE them do.

    you either do independent study or you can join the NRA and ask for assistance to get an instructor contact to teach you. Teach your kids that they are not toys and need to be respected. You can start with airguns if your gun shy. They are first rate training guns for both kids and adults. I started with BB pistols when I was very young. Through the years have shot hundreds of thousands of rounds and have yet to shoot myself or anyone else accidentally. Its not that complicated. Guns are about as complicated as staplers.

    Learn, be safe, and respect the firearm and you will be fine.
     
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    That's what the left-nuts WANT you to believe. NRA is about protecting the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
     
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    It's always interesting to read a poll that supports the Left-wing nutjobs stance on a topic.
     

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