Who won the debate?

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    If you look hard enough, I'm sure you can gather a focus group of people who believe it was RFK Jr. dressed as Trump who showed up at the debate.

    Otherwise, the vast majority of voters (independents included) gave Harris the win and Trump looked like a clown, as always.
     
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    And the Illegals are taking over apartment buildings.

    'I HAD BEEN ASSURED THE VENEZUELA APARTMENT TAKEOVER WAS JUST RIGHT-WING PANIC MONGERING:'

    'BREAKING: Kids who live directly next to the apartment complex Venezuelan gangsters took over CONFIRMED to me that the gangsters "were doing a lot of bad stuff" like shootings and that they are happy the building got shutdown Me: "What do you mean by bad stuff?" Them: "Like, there were shootings last time..." This kid's words directly DEBUNK all the lies from the Democrats and media, who claim none of this is happening. He's also not the only Aurora resident who did. Two elderly sisters also confirmed some bombshells to me'

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    https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1...n^s1_&ref_url=https://instapundit.com/671837/

    I believe them over the Lying Fake News that is in the tank for Open Borders Kamala.

    I also believe the local residents in Springfield OH who are reporting the beheading and eating of their pets and park ducks and geese.

    I bet the dog that Obama ate was beheaded, too.
     
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  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do know the context of the quote, and if you did you would know that the context doesn't change jack. It's a straightforward, unambiguous statement - socialists don't know sh*t about economics. Never have, never will.

    If you're referring to Hayek and The Road to Serfdom you would be wrong as usual. Not only have I read it, I own a copy of it in my own personal library. Evidently, you've forgotten that when I recently schooled you about the socialist nature and roots of the National Socialists (Nazis) in Germany, I quoted from Chapter 12 of that book, which is titled "The Socialist Roots of Nazism". Here's some more education for you:

    Hayek on the Socialist Roots of Nazism
    https://fee.org/articles/hayek-on-the-socialist-roots-of-nazism/

    Obviously YOU have never read The Road to Serfdom. Ever.

    Unlike yourself, I've known what it socialism is and means for decades, and obviously I know more about it than you do.

    You're a socialist who supports socialists, which makes you far more anti-Hayek than myself and everyone else on the Right, including Trump lol, who isn't much of a RWer at all. Not only that, you're hypocritical in your feigned, selective concern and condemnation of tariffs - you pretend to care about them when Trump proposes them and are predictably silent and apathetic about them when your socialist comrades Kamaola and Walz support them (not to mention Biden, for that matter). When Hayek attacked tariffs and protectionism, he attacked not only the policies that Trump has embraced, but the policies your beloved comrade Kamaola Harris has embraced and you support. Clearly, you don't respect Hayek and his philosophy and policies at all - in fact, socialists like you are the complete opposite of Austrian School libertarians like him and his colleague (or mentor) Ludwig von Mises.
     
  4. yardmeat

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    I've read Hayek, I've read Mises, and I've written about both of them in my classes, not to mention Smith and Nozick. I'm probably a bigger fan of them than you are. You don't know what socialism means if you are going to call me a socialist, and you are literally defending and voting for a man whose economic philosophy is perfectly aligned with the philosophy capitalism and western liberalism (words Trump has proven he doesn't understand, by the way) arose to fight. Come back when you can talk details. You aren't prepared. And, yes, I have read The Road to Serfdom, which says your beloved orange candidate is full of **** economically. Do you need more citations?
     
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  5. Zorro

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    Heritage! Project 2025! I’ll bet they pretended that was a lie,too!
     
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    It’ s your flagrantly racist trope. You’re the one who is promoting it.

    Why? Perhaps because your beloved wannbe fuhrer fell for it just like you did.

    Still no sign of evidence.
     
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    actual the real racists are those of you who think that Harris was qualified.
    the real racists are the ones that subject blacks to the racism of lowered expectations

    now what you you claim I said that was racist (which almost 100% guarantees it is not given your track record)
     
  9. yardmeat

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    She was more qualified than Trump ever was, and Trump's comments were absolutely racist. And the comments about her "sleeping her way to the top" are sexist. If Trump could find a better argument than racism, sexism, or mocking her laugh, he'd be worse listening to. Until then, **** that piece of ****.
     
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    so you disagree with me when I say republican law makers are pandering when the talk about a national federal abortion ban? OK run with that
     
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    no she isn't: why not just admit you like her pro abortion, pro gay, anti police, anti top one percent (sort of) and open borders programs.
     
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    I'm pro-gay and will loudly say so. I'm also pro-choice. I will loudly say that. Trump is far more anti-police. I don't care about your fake one-precent narrative, which I've disproven, and Trump has no plan for the border at all other than an idiotic wall that he already failed to produce. You need new lines.
     
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    You are right, I do! Mostly.

    I am pro-choice, pro LGBTQ+, I think we need more accountability for the police, the top 1% need to pay their share, and we need a better border policy than "let's build a wall".
     
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    The question to him was what his position was since he has flip-flopped so many times about how he'd vote on abortion in Florida. He did not answer.

    Project 2025 mentions abortion no less than 200 times
     
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    Of course you believed them, they confirmed your bias.
     
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    Who won the debate?

    @Golem is here all weekend, folks - next show is at 10pm. Try the veal!
     
  17. yardmeat

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    She's more reasonable than Trump on all of these issues, so far as I can tell. And the LGBTQ+ gets me the most right now. Like . . . how the **** does being anti that in any way even makes sense? I get why cavemen struggled with it, in a way, (though they probably didn't as much as the GOP does) but WTF? Don't mind me. I'll just be staring at pictures of Mark Strong and Kiroyuki Sanda and hope it makes republicans as mad as it makes me happy.
     
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    Thinking Trump is a racist is asinine? lol... Seems pretty clear he is. You live in a different reality than I do, though, that's for sure.
     
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    what share of the federal income taxes should the top one percent pay-they are paying about 45% now despite only earning about 26% of the income
     
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    democrats are constantly throwing the race card. If you want secure borders-you are racist. if you want to deport illegal immigrants, you are racist, if you support the police and demand violent criminals be locked up you are racist. If you want felons caught with guns sentenced under the more severe 18 USC 922 instead of state laws, you are racist. But it's ok to tell white and Asian kids with top grades and board scores that they need to allow less mentally able black students with lower scores to jump them in admissions to selective universities. It's ok to tell white people they need to pay reparations even though none of them owned slaves and many didn't even have any family members in the USA when slavery ended
     
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    He was continually trumped and outplayed.
     
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    Her debate coaches told her to put her hand on her chin and look "smart" and "inquisitive".

    This was the best she could pull off

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    Hell, throughout history and among many other cultures, LGBTQ+ has been more accepted. Can you guess what made the difference?
     

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