Why are Americans So Pro Israel

1. Yes, the colonial Muslims are made and supported by not Muslims who wish to make them infamous. It has no relation with religion.
2. Yes, as my studies say, yes. Actually it is the effect of Israel that attacked American people. If we consider the 11/9 in NY deeply we can see that at the moment of happening the place had been emptied of the Jewish which has to be thought of. The second reason is the exact monitoring of the event from so many different beautiful angles that is not like mobile monitoring, I think it was planned before. Of course I have to say that these are based on what I heard and it needs a deeper study. Totally yes dear friend I think that it is the Israeli lobby that is attacking American people. If I'm wrong please help me know more from you.

 

Many of the comments on this thread support my observation: AIPAC is, by far, the most successful foreign lobby in the US, and is very successful in promoting a positive image of Israel, ironically, burnished by so many Americans mindlessly embracing what is often cited as an Arab proverb: The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

As meritorious as many aspects of Israel may be, its practice of killing relatively large numbers of Palestinian men, women, and children every time Hamas fanatics terrorize Israelis is a depraved and manifestly ineffective one. Even if you are unable to neutralize a criminal without slaughtering innocents, slaughtering innocents doe not become acceptable.

Nations may have their partisan fans, but the acts of nations must still be judged objectively. Even those who subscribe to a moral philosophy of "The ends justify the means,", must look to the ends and ask, "How effective has killing Palestinian civilians been in ending rockets being lobbed into Israeli territory?"

Iron Dome has been extremely successful; "Many, many eyes for a threat to one's eyes" has been a consummate failure.


"Eyeless in Gaza" is not a solution.






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This is exactly the type of crackpot conspiracy claptrap that exhibits no thought, deep or shallow, merely mindless prejudice.

Educate yourself.

 

Proof sir that the towers were emptied of all the jewish people before the strikes. If you can provide that I may consider listening to more of your thoughts. But I doubt you will find any documented evidence to support such outrageous claims.

 

50% of Israeli Jews are not from Europe.

 

It's even nuttier than the "Birther" fantasy. See this and accept that "Citizens of 80 countries were missing and presumed dead in the disaster... and [m]ore than 130 were Israeli citizens."


Noting the agenda of conspiracy-promoters goes a long way in assessing the credibility of their favourite conspiracy.

 

commenting further on that,is this below.you sir have been taken to school.dont take defeat too harsh.happens to the best of us.

http://12160.info/photo/five-dancing-israelis-our-purpose-was-to-document-the-event

 

Im not blinded,but you obviously are.you have fallen for the lies that hollyood spreads to the american people about muslims being terrorists.just like I took that one guy who went on an asinine rant to school earlier,I am now taking you to school as well.

you are way too trusting of the CIA controlled media I see.the CIA funded those terrorists that murdered those 200,000 MUSLIMS
http://12160.info/photo/five-dancing-israelis-our-purpose-was-to-document-the-event

http://12160.info/group/demand911truthnow/forum/topics/israel-did-9-11-all-the-proof-in-the-world

 

Ok, so let's take your claim as fact and the CIA supported the Syrian attack (ISIS). Those who were supported, still killed the 200,000 right? And their rhetoric is Islamic extremism. So, who are the actual soldiers on the ground killing?

I do not rely on CIA controlled media, I don't trust the CIA and I know they were involved in supporting Muslim extremists in he past. (Iran, Afghanistan, among others and more recently Syria) Of course i don't condone that nor do they admit it. BUT, these Muslim extremists still WANT to be supported so they CAN kill. (Whether Israelis or other Muslims)

 

lol!!! irony.

you have to be pretty blind and deaf to think there are no acts of terror committed by Muslims.

 

Uh... read his user name.

 

Then your fellow peaceful Muslims should be more vocal about 'colonial Muslims' and stop blaming everyone else.

Once the specre of conspiracy is raised with nothing more than opinion, no logic can penetrate. What do you say about the rocket attack on Israel? Is that perpetrated by 'colonial Muslims?' Please, my friend, enlighten us. Try to be succinct.

 

TNX it was useful to me. I admit it, my text was not documented but you made a good one. It may have been a rumor as I studied your links. So you have a right to claim those emptied places of israeli rooms are debatable and not proved yet, as a non-expert I cannot find relevant documented stuff now, so I leave it now for more research. Thanks for your hint anyway I can use them in my future more studies, I have started now.
You tell this case is not proved, who can deny Israeli cruelties s.a. settlement in a foreign country's properties, then arresting people and torturing them? You remember even President Obama disagreed with the settlement.

 

1. We sincerely try to do it. To believe it, I'd like to refer to Mr. Hamfer's autobiography who made the infected branch of so called Islam in a vast area. You'd better follow more on his diary- Vahabiat, by Muhammad-e-ibn-e-Abdu-Al-Vahhab.


2. Dear RPA1, you are very polite, it makes me respect you much more. I am not an expert on this, but as I believe it is crystal clear to me that Palestine has nothing more than these simple weapons + great faith and aspiration against cruelty.
No one expects silence against occupying their lands. You know even President Obama disagreed on the settlemnt. It is Palestine's land. Islaeli govt should stop it ASAP.

 

Cruelty, unfortunately, exists on both sides. This I understand however, one wonders why Hamas continues to put their population at risk knowing that Israel has Iron Dome which has canceled out 90% of the rocket attacks and the Gaza citizens do not. Do the Gaza rocketeers understand that by launching more and more rockets at Israel, they are putting their innocent souls at risk? Occupation is is a thousand-year point of argument. Statements by some that Israel will be obliterated do not enhance Muslims around the world.

I would gently council that blaming Jews is a losing position just as blaming all Muslims is. From what I understand, Palestine is a multi-cultural population. However, it seems that the radical Hamas is their representative. Is this acceptable to most Palestinians or are we being fooled?

 

An interesting question. I think all your choices are valid, and play a part. I also think a major factor is that the majority of Americans regard themselves as some sort of Christian, and since Jesus was a Jew, by affiliation, Jews must be OK. The conflicts we've had with Muslim extremists in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan, plus 9/11, plus the conflict we've witnessed happening with Muslims in Europe, and the never-ending conflict in Israel/Palestine, not to mention the nasty conflict between Shiite and Sunni Muslims in Africa, Iraq, Syria, and the Middle East generally, leaves a deep, unsettling feeling in the pit of most Americans stomach toward Muslims. Muslims are equated with violence and intolerance. The result is to see Israel, even with its territorial greed, as the lesser of two evils. I think also that the way Muslims treat women may play a significant part in the overall result. Israel has a long history of treating women as near equals in public society, whereas Muslims in non-western countries fail to extend to them even basic human rights.

 

1. They have a contract, they should behave on it. Israel on its own and Paletine on its. Does Israel ever pay little care when they have keep all by force.
You tell what to do? Just leave Israel free wherever to get? Don't they have a comtract?
2. It is not my point to obliterate any nation. I believe in respecting their contract.
3. Actually we are willing to find the truth here, I know little that Hamas has the left side of Palestine (Gaza) and he is famous there.

 

Any contacts were blown apart by rockets raining down on Israel.

I didn't say YOU did.

Just because Hamas is 'famous' does not give Hamas free reign to rain down rockets on Israel.

 

Excellent answer. I agree.

 

That's one of the only silver linings that I see about the future of white European countries becoming multiculturalized out of existence... the same thing is going to happen in Israel. The same people who wanted it to happen in the West, and took drastic steps towards making it happen, can watch Israel go through the same transformation. It's a sense of justice, to me.

 

Why should we support either?

 

That's great, but the Qur'an literally supports none of this. Do you just consciously decide to ignore those parts of the Qur'an that contradict your beliefs?

 

I don't agree. I think most Americans have a well deserved reservation when dealing with Muslims. I'm thankful they are not as numerous in this country as they are in Europe, for obvious reasons. And it's not that this "radical element" is some "other". They are actually practicing mainstream Islam as it is designed to be followed in the Qur'an. The moderates are more on the outside of their religion, at least based on scripture.

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Knowing their religion reduces one's ability to trust anything they tell you, especially about how tolerant and accepting they are of other religions and viewpoints. They are told to lie to infidels about the true nature of Islam in order to advance it.

 

That isn't really fair. There a bunch of "laws" in the bible that (almost) no Christians adhere to.
(Slaves, multiple wives, taking a spouse from your brothers house, beating women, stoning, let's not forget the silly ones in Leviticus)

 

How do you justify that statement? The bible presents exactly the same conundrum.

Do you wish to stand by it or withdraw it?