Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has so many unresolved political murders?

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There are already two threads on politicalforum.com which deal with the problem of murders in Ukraine; please see - Why are there so many unresolved political murders in Ukraine since 2014? and Was there a threat for ethnic Russians in February 2013 in Ukraine (Crimean question)?

Therefore, I am not going to repeat information from these threads – you can read it there.

Now I would like to discuss the question: Why do the U.S. support Ukraine, which has so many unresolved political murders?

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And there is some additional information to this subject.

During Ukrainian protests in 2013-2014, i.e. during the so-called Euromaidan, protesters began to burn and kill at some point, although now nobody in Ukraine can explain why they did it; please see the thread What have Ukrainians been fighting for since 2013?

Despite murders, which had been committed during Euromaidan, the U.S. government at once began to support new Ukrainian rulers, after former protesters had come to power at the end of February 2014.

This support was not stopped even after 42 opponents of the new Ukrainian rulers were killed in Odessa on May 2, 2014 in a fire in the Trade Unions House which had been surrounded by nationalists.

And ordinary Americans, too, were absolutely indifferent to this mass death.

However, when in March 1998 a similar number (58 ) of ethnic Albanians were killed in a compound in Kosovo during a Yugoslav police operation, there was a quite different attitude of Americans to it; please see the citation below.

please see Google Books

In my opinion, the Ukrainian crisis was caused by violent actions of protesters during Euromaidan; therefore the Russian government had concern – which resulted from these actions - about ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

It is not a conflict between Russia and the U.S., but the U.S. government wants to use Ukraine as a tool against Russia.

And therefore, it does not matter for the U.S. government at all, what kind of a country Ukraine is; inter alia, it does not matter for the U.S. government, how many unresolved political murders Ukraine has.

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the Ukrainians are killing Russians. And Americans have had nearly a century of considering the Russians as enemies

 

I would say because in my mind it is the responsibility of the Ukranian Government to solve that problem, not the Russian army. Do you think that the Russian Republic would feel comfortable if over 300,000 foreign troops came into Russia to solve the political murders Boris Nemtsov or Alexander Litvinenko and others? Would you support that?

 

Pretty much this. If we follow american tradition, we will invade ukraine in 20 years and they will use the weapons we gave against us.

 

When has that ever happened before? Seriously.

 

Really? Ever heard of Afghanistan?

 

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What U.S. provided weapons were used against us en mass in Afghanistan?

 

Ukraine bribed the Bidens, purchasing the US military machine.

UKRAINE WAR: Russia resorts to massive Soviet-era bombs as Ukrainian air defenses prove a match for missiles, drones.

'Ukrainian investigators have increasingly found instances of Russia dropping older bombs, some around 1,100 pounds. The low-tech explosives easily circumvent modern air defenses like the U.S.-made Patriot missile systems that are designed to counter long-range missiles and drones.'

'Russia’s bombs, resurrected from Cold War-era ordnance stashes, have two major advantages over missiles in that they have no propulsion system for air defenses to track, and they remain airborne for barely a minute.'

'With no way to counter the bombs themselves, Ukrainian forces must target the planes that drop them, a tall order for a national air force with planes far older than Russia’s modern aircraft.'

“Trying to intercept these bombs isn’t effective, it’s not even rational,” a Ukrainian air force spokesman told the newspaper. “The only way out of this situation and the only way to stop it is to attack the planes that launch these bombs.”

AP dares not ask about Ukraine:


“It’s not what the media reports that matters; it is what they don’t say.”

'Foreign policy is the area where a president has the most flexibility, thus it is the best measure of a president’s success. AP somehow forgot to ask about the war Biden has invested billions in.'

'Ukraine is Biden’s baby. Putin’s invasion was a good excuse to pour cash and military equipment in. The cash results in kickbacks. The equipment results in restocking our military, which means billions in defense contracts — guided by well-paid retired generals and admirals whose military pensions are $120,000 a year.'

'The Biden Crime Family has used Ukraine as an ATM for years, funding Hunter’s debauchery for years as he went through seemingly mountains of cocaine. The war was an opportunity to expand the operation as millions became billions.'

'No one wants the war to end, especially Zelensky.'

'The men in charge of today’s war—in Moscow, Kiev, and Washington—have shown no interest even in temporary ceasefire talks that could serve as a prelude to something permanent. The talk now is only about the possibilities of a late spring or summer offensive by either party.”'

'Bribes, kickbacks, profiteering. And once everything is destroyed, the reconstruction contracts will be an even bigger windfall for corruption.'

'This is paradise for a political prostitute like FJB. He does not want the war flow of money to end, but others do.'

'Journalist Seymour Hersh has uncovered evidence that a substantial portion of military hardware sent to Ukraine winds up being sold on the black market.”'

https://donsurber.substack.com/p/ap...id=123172953&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

 

You know that in the U.S. fully one third of murders are never solved.

 

How many times do we need to explain to MAGAs that we are NOT defending Ukraine. We are defending ourselves!

What kind of nonsense is the MAGA media putting into people's heads?

I don't know what it is, but taking advantage of people's short sightedness is yet another way the extreme right manipulates people

 

ATM, money laundering for our reps, and in ByDummies case, Lil Huntard ByDummy..

There are no innocents in Washington, just money launderers.

 

Defending ourselves from what?

 

Why do so many Americans listen to Russian anti-Ukraine propaganda? It's really puzzling.

 

I really see no practical advantage in supporting Ukraine other than perhaps the longer it drags out, the more dinks in the Russian nationalism-movement's armor. For all practical purposes, there is no difference between Russian and Ukranian people. I wouldn't trust either to be anything but selfish.

 

Today, Russia bombed a medical facility in Dnipro. You must be proud of your support for war criminal Putin.

 

The more we waste our weaponry in Ukraine, the better chance China has of conquering Taiwan easily.

 

From expansionist dictators (plural)

Here is another example of how people who don't learn history are destined to repeat it.

 

Living in fear of the PAST Although, I admire your ability to ignore the current expanding government dictators we live under presently in the U.S.

See DNC ghetto's, masks, lockdowns, rights, ect-ect

Wake up!

 

Because in this war between two corrupt Oligarchies, both sides of which bribed the Bidens, the Ukrainians won the bidding war for the US Military.

Col. Douglas Macgregor: "Bakhmut Is A Catastrophe [For Ukraine]... F-16s Won't Make A Difference"

Russia turned Bakhmut into the graveyard of Ukrainian military power. What comes next?.

"...the truth is Bakhmut was a catastrophe and everyone knows it... people know the Ukrainians can't win and now we're acting desperately at every turn - send them F-16s, send them whatever we have; Truth is none of that is going to make any difference... the real risk now is that fools in Washington will talk about direct intervention..."

 

LOL! You continue with your Russian propaganda. The truth is that Putin thought he could steamroll Ukraine within weeks. Didn't quite work out that way, did it? But, Putin is smart and savvy, right? According to your guy. In the meantime, Russia has exposed itself as a papertiger, with subpar equipment and demoralized troops that are tired of fighting Putin's (not Russia's) war. They even need to scrape the bottom of the barrel and lure prisoner into the meatgrinder by lying to them.

But, you do you and support Putin. The war is not something that you can fault Biden for. He has kept the international coalition together and not ONE American soldier has lost their life in Ukraine.

 

There’s an old Sanskrit proverb that states: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” That about covers it.

 

I would add that the current admin got elected specifically to clean up things. Citing what happened before is unfair to the people of Ukraine that elected a government specifically to address those problems.

 

And Ukraine is soooooo much better now

 

Putin lackeys spew revilements at Ukraine, and cheer the thug's invasion and war crimes.

That's hardly unexpected.

 

It's democratic potential has improved immeasurably since the corrupt Viktor Yanukovych fled to Russia.

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