Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has so many unresolved political murders?

Shokin’s ouster was considered a diplomatic victory.

Biden was among the many Western officials who pressed for the removal of Shokin because he actually was not investigating the corruption endemic to the country. Indeed, he was not investigating Burisma at the time. In September 2015, then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt publicly criticized Shokin’s office for thwarting a British money-laundering probe into Burisma’s owner, Mykola Zlochevsky.

“Shokin was not investigating. He didn’t want to investigate Burisma,” Daria Kaleniuk, of the Ukrainian Anti-Corruption Action Center, told The Washington Post in July. “And Shokin was fired not because he wanted to do that investigation, but quite to the contrary, because he failed that investigation.”

...The Ukrainian prosecutor was regarded as a failure, and “Joe Biden’s efforts to oust Shokin were universally praised,” said Anders Aslund, a Swedish economist heavily involved in Eastern European market reforms. Getting rid of Shokin was considered the linchpin of reform efforts, but U.S. officials had a list of changes the government needed to make before it could obtain another loan guarantee

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ide-trumps-false-claims-about-ukraine-bidens/

Under the new regime, Shokin became prosecutor general in early 2015. But he failed “to indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption,” according to testimony that John E. Herbst, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under President George W. Bush, gave in March 2016 to a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

“Ukraine has had a long line of prosecutors whose function has not been to enforce the law, but to perform the political function of selectively prosecuting political enemies and to hold out the threat of prosecution in order to secure political loyalty and compliance. Shokin was precisely that kind of prosecutor,” Keith Darden, an associate professor at American University’s School of International Service, told us in an email for a story last year. “He would open cases as a way of holding the threat of prosecution over a business, but he did not actually prosecute cases.”

But, as we said, the evidence shows Biden was carrying out U.S. policy, and the United States was not alone in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin.

In February 2016, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde threatened to withhold $40 billion unless Ukraine undertook “a substantial new effort” to fight corruption after the country’s economic minister and his team resigned to protest government corruption. That same month, a “reform-minded deputy prosecutor resigned, complaining that his efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research Service report.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/

 

@JonK22
Are you serious?
Why don't you try doing actual research and not keep regurgitating what someone else tells you...

Is this the "many Western officials" you are touting.. they are not officials at all, nice try but that boat don't float.
an associate professor, Managing Director, Swedish economist, Ukrainian civil society activist

U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine " Shokin has faced accusations of stalling high-profile corruption cases against allies of Yanukovych." Would Joe Biden try to get fired a prosecutor helping to hide his son's dirty dealings by stalling high-profile corruption cases? A little backasswards don't you think?

Do you have a link to the Congressional Research Service report... i can make my own judgement about what it says... I don't need a factcheck to do it for me...

 

@JonK22

Joe Biden blackmailed Ukraine, implicated Obama and used tax dollars to do it....
Shokin's statement
https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement
Ukraine judge orders Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in prosecutor’s firing
https://justthenews.com/accountabil...aine-judge-orders-joe-biden-be-listed-alleged

 

@JonK22

the memos obtained by Just the News and the Southeastern Legal Foundation under a Freedom of Information Act request show senior State Department officials — including then-Secretary of State John Kerry — were sending the opposite message to Shokin the summer before his firing. House Democrats alleged that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin was fired in March 2016 because State officials were widely displeased with his anti-corruption efforts

Here he is speaking for himself.... and he says just the opposite...
Newly released State memos undercut Democrats' Ukraine impeachment story
State Department officials told Ukraine prosecutor they were "impressed" with his work shortly before Biden forced his firing.

https://justthenews.com/accountabil...omerang-newly-released-state-memo-casts-doubt

https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-01/F-2021-04113 -- FL-2021-00525 December 2021 Production.pdf

 

@JonK22

Joe Biden blackmailed Ukraine using tax payer dollars and implicated Obama..... all on video tape...

There seems to be a judge that ordered Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in the prosecutor’s firing

https://justthenews.com/accountabil...aine-judge-orders-joe-biden-be-listed-alleged
https://justthenews.com/sites/defau...ourtRulingEngTranslation4-21-20ShokinCase.pdf

 

Got it, you prefer Putin's puppets to facts

 

JUSTTHENEWS? LMAOROG

Updated: May 19, 2020 -

Ukraine judge orders Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in prosecutor’s firing


COOL, WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE? Oh right he was elected US President by over 7,000,000 more votes than Diaper Donnie

Judge Vovk saves another judge Vovk from criminal prosecution

In Kyiv, a controversial judge named Vovk can always count on another controversial judge named Vovk to get him out of trouble.

This played out again on June 17, when Serhiy Vovk, a judge at Kyiv’s Pechersk District Court, ordered prosecutors to close an obstruction of justice case against his namesake, Pavlo Vovk, the head of the Kyiv District Administrative Court.

The two judges are not related.

Pavlo Vovk, his deputy Yevhenii Ablov, and judges of his court were hit with obstruction of justice charges in 2019 and corruption charges in a different case in 2020. But prosecutors and other judges, including Serhiy Vovk, have consistently blocked the cases from advancing.

Pavlo Vovk is arguably Ukraine’s most infamous judge. Civil society sees him as an avatar of judicial corruption and impunity and he’s been audiotaped discussing corrupt deals and even bragging about the “political prostitution” of his court. He has denied all allegations against him.

https://archive.kyivpost.com/ukrain...her-judge-vovk-from-criminal-prosecution.html

 

@JonK22

Your posts prove nothing.... let the people involved tell you with their own words.

Ukraine’s government said it also, Joe Biden is the identity of the unnamed American...

Ukraine’s government has revealed the identity of the unnamed American in an ongoing felony criminal investigation into the illegal firing of a prosecutor. That American is Joe Biden.

One America News, doing the reporting the Biden-Media can’t be bothered with, reports that the charge revolves around Biden’s admitted pay to play in which he held a billion in US aid over the head of the Ukrainian government.
Biden famously refused the money unless Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor investigating his son Hunter and Burisma, was fired.
Shokin was fired, Ukraine got the money, but as it turns out, even in Ukraine, that is illegal. A nearly year-long investigation kept Biden’s name hidden until now.
We can only assume that Biden, should he manage to steal the presidency, will expect them to drop this investigation too. In exchange for money or under threat of letting Russia take more of their sovereign territory? Maybe both?

Translated .. Wonder if CNN or WaPo ever picked this up?
https://rumble.com/vc9ln5-the-ukrai...andidate-joe-biden-on-class-a-felony-cha.html

 

@JonK22

Prosecutor Shokin files a complaint against Joe Biden for interference in Ukraine’s legal proceedings

During the period 2014-2016, the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine was conducting a preliminary investigation into a series of serious crimes committed by the former Minister of Ecology of Ukraine Mykola Zlotchevsky and by the managers of the company « Burisma Holding Limited « (Cyprus), the board of directors of which included, among others, Hunter Biden, son of Joseph Biden, then vice-president of the United States of America.

"""
Annexe 2 : Article 343 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine
Article 343. Interference with activity of a law enforcement officer
1. Any influence on a law enforcement officer for the purpose of interfering with his official duty or obtaining any unlawful decisions, –
shall be punishable by a fine of 50 to 200 tax-free minimum incomes, or correctional labor for a term up to two years, or arrest for a term up to six months.
2. The same actions that precluded the prevention of a criminal offense or apprehension of an offender, or were committed by an official through abuse of office, –
shall be punishable by the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term up to five years, or arrest for a term up to six months, or imprisonment for a term up to four years."""

https://www.les-crises.fr/breaking-...-interference-in-ukraine-s-legal-proceedings/

https://thewatchtowers.org/breaking...in-files-federal-complaint-against-joe-biden/

 

@JonK22

In Joe's own voice.. blackmailing Ukraine.

“"QUID PRO JOE’ — AUDIO Released of JOE BIDEN and Ukrainian President Poroshenko Discussing FIRING VIKTOR SHOKIN Who Was Investigating His Son — FOR IMF LOAN!!""

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...oshenko-fire-viktor-shokin-investigating-son/

 

Do you have a link to the Congressional Research Service report?

 

They have this thing called google

 

Sure he was, lol

Hint there is video too of Dark Brandon telling the story of getting the corrupt prosecutor fired!

 

Yes Ukraine, and most of Eastern Europe is known to be highly corrupt, and?

 

It goes to show you the US is more corrupt than any other country... when Obama and Biden and our whole intel community knowingly participated in a failed coup attempt on a duly elected president to overthrow our own government in an insurrection.... and it continues today....

But low and behind the Ukrainians are holding their president accountable, unlike the US. Where only select politicians are targeted while other are not investigated...

Zelenskyy to be investigated for “High Treason,” by Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigation

“Let me remind you that the pocket SBI refused to investigate Zelenskyy’s high treason when he appointed FSB agents to key positions in the SBU, but we were obliged by the court to enter information into the Unified Register of Pre-Trial Investigations and begin a pre-trial investigation,” the former deputy said.

May 30, 2023
https://scotlandtoday.online/zelens...son-by-ukraines-state-bureau-of-investigation
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com...on-by-ukraines-state-bureau-of-investigation/
https://tsarizm.com/news/eastern-europe/2023/05/31/zelensky-under-investigation-for-high-treason/
https://gagrule.net/zelenskyy-to-be...on-by-ukraines-state-bureau-of-investigation/
https://twitter.com/myscotlandtoday/status/1663560675225108483

This is the letter translated:
PECHERSKY DISTRICT COURT OF THE CITY OF KYIV Case No. 757/21124/23-k RESOLVED IMEHEM OF UKRAINE On May 30, 2023, the Investigating Judge of the Pechersk District Court of Kyiv – T.V. Ostapchuk, under the secretary – K.S. Lymar, with: complainant – Leros H.B. representative of the complainant – lawyer Sayenka V.V. having considered in an open court session in the courtroom in Kyiv the proceedings on the complaint of Leros Geo Bagratovych about the inaction of the investigator, regarding the failure to submit information to the EDPR according to the application dated April 26, 2023 Mo23d9/7-2023/88804, – Guided by Part 2 of Art. 376 of the Criminal Procedure Code of Ukraine, investigating judge, – RESOLVED: Complaint of Leros Geo Bagratovych against the inaction of the investigator, regarding the failure to provide information To ERDR by request from 04/26/2023 N2379/7-2023/88804 on the commission of a criminal offense and to start a pre-trial investigation, about which to inform the applicant. Praise is not subject to appeal. The full text of the resolution will be announced on June 2, 2023 at 1:50 p.m. T. B. Soup *2606*82433888*1*

 

Ukraine judge orders Joe Biden be listed as alleged perpetrator of crime in prosecutor’s firing
https://justthenews.com/sites/defau...ourtRulingEngTranslation4-21-20ShokinCase.pdf

 

Were supporting the corrupt regime of Ukraine against the corrupt regime of Russia because Ukraine won the war to bribe the Bidens, putting the most ferocious war machine in the history of the world into the service of Zelensky and his corrupt zealots, so that they can wage war against Russia and their corrupt zealots, with the Ukraine side financed by the inflation clobbered US taxpayer.

FBI Stonewalls as Breadcrumbs Point to Bribed Biden Scandal

'An FBI whistleblower knows where the evidence is buried — and Sens. Chuck Grassley and James Comer have brought their shovels.'

'After a confidential human source reported that then-Vice President Joe Biden agreed to accept money from a foreign national to affect policy decisions, FBI agents used what’s called an FD-1023 form to record the allegation. Now FBI Director Christopher Wray is defying a May 3 congressional subpoena to provide this form. On Tuesday, in response to Wray’s refusal to hand over the documents, Oversight and Accountability Committee Chair James Comer announced the House will move to hold the FBI director in contempt of Congress. '



The 'document was dated June 30, 2020, and referenced “the amount of money the foreign national paid to receive the desired policy outcome” as “five million.” These details could only have come from a whistleblower with deep knowledge of the investigation, meaning the whistleblower’s characterization of the CHS as “trusted” carries more weight. Likewise, the whistleblower’s claim that the FD-1023 “includes a precise description of how the alleged criminal scheme was employed as well as its purpose,” is more credible given the whistleblower’s knowledge of other details.'

$5Million seems to be Joe Biden's price in a number of bribery events.

'a promise by a Chinese communist government-connected enterprise to funnel $5 million to “Hunter and James Biden to compensate them for work done while Joe Biden was vice president.” Records released by Grassley and Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., also confirmed a $5 million payment to James and Hunter Biden from another Chinese-connected business. '

 

Biden's Lost Control: US Officials Belatedly Confirm NATO Weapons Used In Attacks On Russia

'Biden admin first sought to downplay and obfuscate the clear video evidence...'

Of course their first response was to lie.

Zelensky has no respect for Joe Biden:



'US officials have very belatedly confirmed that the dozens of gunmen who mounted a cross-border attack on Russia's Belgorod from Ukraine on May 22 were using US and other NATO equipment, despite Washington's long-running warnings for Kiev not to allow this to happen.'

Ukraine does not respect Joe Biden.



'At least four US-produced MRAPs (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles) were used in the attack, as well as anti-tank weaponry supplied from NATO countries, US officials have told The Washington Post. Three of the MRAPs had been provided directly by the US to Ukrainian national forces while one was given by Poland.'

UKRAINE SUPPORTING NAZIS USED AMERICAN EQUIPMENT TO ATTACK RUSSIA, IN RUSSIA

'Two militia groups of anti-Kremlin Russians with links to neo-Nazis had claimed credit for the attack, and weren't shy about showing off their US and NATO military hardware.'

'The Pentagon Discord leaks show that the Ukrainian government had been secretly planning covert attacks inside Russian territory using irregular militia fighters armed with "various qualitative types of NATO weapons".'

 

ZH....same $hithouse wall propaganda?

 

Why do other countries support the US when we have over 200,000 unsolved murders right now with a rate of about 6000 added every year?

Once you have that answer, you will have the answer why we support the Ukraine.

 

Journalists Are Asking Ukrainian Soldiers To Hide Their Nazi Patches, NYT Admits

'Ukrainian soldiers constantly use Nazi symbols, NY Times very belatedly points out...'

A war between two corrupt Oligarchies, both sides of which have heavily bribed the Biden's.

'The surprising Monday Times headline said that "Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History." This acknowledgement comes after literally years of primarily indy journalists and geopolitical commentators pointing out that yes indeed... Ukraine's military and paramilitary groups, especially those operating in the east since at least 2014, have a serious Nazi ideology problem. This has been exhaustively documented, again, going back years. But the report, which merely tries to downplay it as a "thorny issue" of Ukraine's "unique" "History" - suggests that the real problem for Western PR is fundamentally that it's being displayed so openly. Ukrainian troops are being asked to cover those Nazi symbols please!'



'NATO quickly deleted a tweet yesterday that featured a photo of a Ukrainian soldier wearing the Nazi Black sun patch. Remember we're constantly told that Nazis in Ukraine are an insignificant fringe and if you point to it, you're a Putin stooge or worse.'



'Ukraine's neo-Nazi and ultra-nationalist regiment has been well documented and acknowledged even prior to the Russian invasion, and discarding it as "Russian propaganda" is disingenuous. Ukraine has a history of neo-Nazi involvement which is well established.'
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-Na…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-Na…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_o…
reuters.com/article/us-coh…
aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/…
theguardian.com/world/2014/sep…
readthemaple.com/media-once-cal…

 

Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has so many unresolved political murders?

The US supports Ukraine for other reasons not related to political murders. Your question contains a red herring.

 

FBI had Twitter censor journalists on behalf of Ukraine

'New Twitter Files: The FBI is helping Ukraine censor Twitter users, including journalists. The FBI aided a Ukrainian intelligence effort to ban Twitter users and collect their data.'

'In March 2022, an FBI Special Agent sent Twitter a list of accounts on behalf of the SBU, Ukraine’s main intelligence agency. The accounts, the FBI wrote, “are suspected by the SBU in spreading fear and disinformation.”'



'The Security Service of Ukraine is capable of reaching out to Twitter with their concerns, so using the FBI as a conduit is a clear attempt to use the US government to pressure the platform in a manner that a third-party actor could not. The history of the government using “disinformation” as a smokescreen for outright censorship bolsters that argument.'