Why is the name "Azazel" in Leviticus 16 verse ten in the RSV?

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Did YHWH play some sort of practical joke on Azazel?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All that I am essentially certain of is that YHWH would not play some sort of practical joke on Azazel to get Lucifer and LLT and others to pick on him and beat him up or something like that..... although frankly.... putting the name of Azazel into Leviticus chapter sixteen a couple of times would undoubtedly get him into significant trouble.

    "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD
    to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness
    to Aza'zel." (Leviticus 16:10, RSV)


    My theory is that Azazel is something like a grandson in law to the Patriarch Adam.... and he and Adam have grandchildren in common.......
    I suspect a connection between the final Elijah and the Patriarch Adam......
    and I suspect that the idea of "the restoration of all things"...... fits with the increase and increase and increase of the kingdom of the Moshiach!
     
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    I can't abide with those who raise or buy goats. They are surely the least amongst men.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect that you are going to want to go to the 1:11:00 mark in this video about the second near death experience account of Rabbi Alon Anava and Revelations chapter 12 will begin to make a lot more sense.

    Revelation 12:9
    "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."




    "Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him." Deuteronomy 4:35 .... This is the verse in Hebrew that the huge angel with feet like a gigantic eagle like angel of death shouts......... a-TAH ha-r’-ay-TA la-DA-at KEE a-do-NAI HU ha-e-lo-HEEM .... "AYN OD mi-l’-va-DO"

    Let me guess.. you raise and buy goats and you really like them don't you?

    Rabbi Alon Anava after the 1:11:00 mark in that amazing video recounts how during his second brush with death he met the Baal Shem Too and also was shown a powerful Cherub shaking the earth and saying those words in Hebrew.......
    ....... (could this have been the same Cherub who once rebelled against YHWH????????????)!
     
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    I'm lost. Is this before or after Gandalf defeats the Balrog?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is actually a good question......
    because good literature that gets published always have some sort of metaphorical meaning in it.....
    for example I think that Pinnochio is inspired by a bunch of Nephilim and / or fallen angels making fun of a former Covering Cherub who lies and lies and lies and lies...... partly because he was angry that Adam and Eve were considered actual children of YHWH whereas he felt like he was more like a android or A.I or something like that???????

    So... I think that this would be before the metaphorical Gahdalf defeats the Balrog..... by about five and a half millennia assuming linear time........ because Moses was given the Book of Genesis and other writings in something that may be somewhat comparable to a near death experience or out of body experience.......?!

    http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm

     
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    What did Messiah Yeshua - Jesus fully mean when He stated that the final Elijah would somehow "restore all things?"

    Did the translation of that sentence get all mixed up between the original Aramaic or Greek and the 1611 KJV?????



    Matthew 17:11


    And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things."

    and also.....


    http://www.drbo.org/chapter/26048.htm

     
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    Huh, I just learned where the term "scapegoat" came from. Learn something new every day, lol.
     
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    I love goatmeat! I used to get it all the time in Iraq. It was kinda like paying Russian Roulette there though, lol. One time I got violently ill for a few days from it. But After eating MRE's for weeks on end, eating goat gyros tasted like heaven!
     
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    This could well be another one of my extremely debatable and controversial theories but......
    the gifted Ms. Anna Roundtree was shown a battering ram with the HEAD OF A GOAT knocking down
    pretty much everything founded on mere sand........

    I suspect that this is somehow connected with a modern fulfillment of Yom Kippur that is at an even more extreme level in some ways than what happened with Barabbas / Bar Abbas.....



    Here it is.... the massive ancient BATTERING RAM WITH THE IRON HEAD OF A GOAT....
    is given in the first pages here in this fascinating vision......







    Most Christians would find this vision really scary but..... perhaps this is very positive and is really about the fall of everything that is built on sand.... .and NOT founded on the ROCK / Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.
     
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    I am not Christian, though I believe Jesus was a great man, and indeed of what in my beliefs would be called a 5th density being, where as most humans are 3rd density, with a few (and increasingly more) being born as or attaining in their lifetimes 4th density. In my beliefs, I can agree with what you say above, though maybe with a different take, though I guess it amounts to about the same thing in the end. I believe many of Jesus' teachings (though not all) were removed and/or altered in order to make it easier for "elites" to maintain control of the masses. If they truly grasped the teachings Jesus and other higher density beings have brought, humanity would not allow itself to be controlled so easily.
    I believe what you say, building things not founded on the rock are doomed to fall, Is basically the same as my beliefs saying anything not based on love is an illusion and does not truly exist, and results in suffering. Greed, power, control, manipulation, hatred.... all these things may create an illusion of greatness, and accomplishment, but will invariably lead to suffering through war, disease, revolution, betrayal, etc etc etc.

    I think most religions and spiritual practices all have the same message in the end. Its just that many times that message gets lost in translation, or is intentionally hidden away. In the end though, there is no hiding the ultimate truths. They are all revealed when a person's soul/spirit is ready for them.
     
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    Wow!

    Your answer is brilliant!

    I for one am wide open to what was shown to near death experiencer Dr. Bruce F. MacDonald regarding Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus being a part of the Essene community when he was younger and that he taught the Gilgul Cycle much like Rabbi Alon Anava might teach it........
    I think that you will find these ten paragraphs from Dr. MacDonald's book rather encouraging.

    According to Dr. MacDonald this is Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus speaking......

    Dr. MacDonald also had a great explanation as to why the Holy Roman Empire would not allow the truth about reincarnation / The Gilgul Cycle to remain a part of Christianity.


    Why reincarnation was edited out of Christianity?


     
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    Thank you for sharing those paragraphs!! That's what I'm talking about. I believe Jesus had teachings so profound, so liberating, that they were a direct threat to the powers that be, and as you noted, the references to reincarnation and other teachings that could undermine the authority of the roman empire were purposely removed. I am certainly going to look up Dr. Macdonald immediately. Those paragraphs mirrored many of my own beliefs almost exactly.
     
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    A quick question, I see the title of his book was "the Thomas Book"? Do you know what that is referring to? Was it the lost gospels of Thomas? or something else?
     
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    In a sense yes.....
    Dr. MacDonald was shown that he is a reincarnation of Judas Didymus Thomas, (Doubting Thomas).

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    His book was so brilliantly written that I believe that even one chapter of his book could assist greatly in bringing peace between Israel and her neighbours.

    Your nomination for Nobel Prize in Literature?


    For the record.... I believe that certain people could have numerous reincarnations at this time assuming that they may have came back in many different centuries so.... .each version of them could in fact reincarnate and have access to the subconscious memories of that person.

    For example, i would guess for a number of reasons that King David might have reincarnated as the Prophet Isaiah and so both King David as well as Isaiah.... if they came back in our time period would then make two valid versions of a modern King David so more than one modern Thomas would not necessarily be a contradiction. Isaiah being sawn in two as he was martyred might fit with Psalms 22 and 23.



    I so thank you for getting yourself to the place where you can handle the off the scale teachings of Dr. MacDonald. I will send you his e-mail address as a personal message.

    I should also give you the link to the NDE account of Mr. Christian Andreason.....
    chapter five....

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

     
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    Thank you very much for sharing all of it, and I will review it with great interest. I'm always excited to find more pieces to "the puzzle", what it all means, and the awesomeness of it all. We find the pieces precisely when we are meant to, and when we are ready for them.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.... I totally agree with your assessment of this..... "the awesomeness of it all."


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...h-to-satanists.517921/page-18#post-1073376064

    I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....



    And within two centuries the meaning of the word scapegoat..... and the name Azazel will be altered dramatically from what that word and that name mean to the majority of people now in 2022!

    https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/

     
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