Many here have repeatedly said nobody is interested in performing late term abortions, and NOBODY is trying to get that legalized. But facts blow those lies sky high! https://www.npr.org/2022/09/01/1120...epares-to-open-in-maryland-one-of-few-nationa
No, they didn't From your link : "" 34 weeks' gestation. A full-term pregnancy typically lasts 40 weeks. The clinic expects to treat an influx of patients coming north from states with abortion bans enacted after the Supreme Court decision in June that overturned Roe v. Wade."" Ya, you make it impossible to get an EARLY abortion and some women need later ones...
I think it more likely that what many have said is that late term abortions are somewhat rare and usually necessitated by a medical issue.
YES THEY DID! The only women who “need an abortion” are coved under the exceptions in states that ban elective convenience abortions.
Problem is that doctors aren't willing to be second guessed as to "need" when that can land them in prison - so they aren't performing the abortions that ARE medically necessary - hence, women are being FORCED to carry embryos that have NO chance of living. That's sick.
That’s pure bullshiite! just more disinformation. but the thing is , if that is true, it still doesn’t justify going back to kill at will abortion. Another unfortunate truth, for the pro abortion crowd, is that there are thousands if not more stories of doctors telling women they should abort, but they didn’t and the baby was healthy!!!
The prudent and reasonable thing to do would be to collect information from each individual case on exactly why those preborn babies are being terminated. But of course we know that is not going to happen.
Duh, that's because these women had a CHOICE. Their OWN choice. They didn't get things rammed down their throat. Its not rocket science, dude. PRO-CHOICE means the woman has the right to DECIDE if she is willing to put her life in danger to bring a problematic pregnancy to term. HER choice. Not some damn back-seat drivers with a religious agenda. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Yes, that happened....ever hear of medical records....most people have them if they have a medical history..
Dude, she should never have the right to choose to wantonly kill her child! It is not ramming anything down anyone’s throat to simply prohibit them from committing homicide. Think MAN!
Would “medical records” record why a woman killed her child in utero? Was it a requirement for the woman to state why she choose homicide under the Roe and related state laws? ?
You honestly think that a child born without a formed skull - one that will literally not survive the day, and would be in extreme pain the entire time, should not be aborted? Nobody should be that cruel. We pull the plug every single day on elder patients who are in such pain at the end stages of life that we let them pass - because it's the compassionate thing to do.
Everyone with any sense knows that the so called “ pro choice” movement is not about medical cases where babies will be malformed or the mother’s life is in danger, or someone was raped. Those fairly rare cases are just what they try to use to justify abortion as birth control. Most states allow reasonable exceptions. Abortion at will with zero oversight should never be allowed!
The Pro-Choice movement is about preserving women's right, what Anti-Choicers want to destroy,,,they don't even want abortion to save the mother's life or save a seriously ill fetus from suffering. NO, they are not used to justify abortion. Abortion is justified because, whether YOU like it or not OH One who Leans towards Islam , women have rights. . Which Anti-Choicers want eliminated. It isn't.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Yes, that happened....ever hear of medical records....most people have them if they have a medical history.. YES! Especially if it was a medical necessity... Not for a LEGAL abortion.....make abortion legal and NO MORE RECORDS
I don't believe in having an abortion and have made sure my family knows that I will provide for their needs and even raise the child if necessary. If someone was planning on taking a short trip to have an abortion, but would reconsider if you opened your home and offered to pay for her needs and adopt the child, would you?
This is the arrogance of the so called pro choicers. They assume that pro-lifers would not. It is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not abortion homicide at will should be legal. But having said that, what makes you think I haven’t already done those things?
The fact that you think it would give my words some weight demonstrates how far off base you are. Killing children in utero at will is either something society should permit or not permit. What I do, or you do, or anyone else does has no bearing in the merits of at will abortion. I do not wish to get into a pissing match about what you or I or anyone else has done. I am debating the philosophy we should employ in determining what is permissible in our society!
I am an eternal student of philosophy and respect the beliefs behind both positions. You believe you are fighting for those without a voice while others believe they are fighting for a womans rights. I can't fault either side for their beliefs. In a philosophical sense, I already gave you the benefit of being 100% right. In a practical sense, you being right has zero value to the lives you are claiming to care about. Thoughts do not replace action. One can say that they care about life and demand that the government enforce their beliefs and place the burden on society, or they can take personal responsibility and take action. Both can be considered levels of concern, but the difference between these 2 extremes is the level of effort. The only effort I asked of you was to come up with ways of enforcing the laws in a way that benefits society. Since we can never know who is pregnant, there is no way to enforce abortion laws in a way that benefits society. They can enforce such laws in the Middle East, where women can be beaten in the streets for not wearing the proper attire, but I don't see that as a society we should emulate.
You equating beating women in the streets to prohibiting them from committing homicide against their own children tells me all I need to know about your capacity to grasp the various philosophical positions here. we enforce the laws when we know they have been violated, just as we do with all other laws. You are chasing your tail. The truth is that the abortion debate is about a conflict of rights. The woman’s right to bodily autonomy for a limited time ( approx 9 months), versus a child in utero’s basic right to life! You repeatedly show a failure to grasp the reality of abortion with notions like the woman “ granting life” to a child in utero, and the notion of forcing women to do something when the reality is that abortion is about preventing women from committing a homicide. I know it is right to stand up for the voiceless powerless children in utero! I don’t need anyone to approve, I know I am right here. I just want everyone to back up and acknowledge the basic fact that abortion is a homicide. Then we can move forward from there on a foundation of truth, not the nonsense of “ personhood” or “viability”.
I already gave you credit for being right. The issue you are running from is the actions that give these thoughts value. Action Without Thought Is Empty, Thought Without Action Is Blind.
I am right here! Not running anywhere! The thoughts have value regardless of the actions of anyone! If it makes you feel better, we have adopted a child out of foster care, but to be clear I don’t think that has any bearing on the validity of the argument fir or against abortion!
