Why would anyone vote for trump when many of his former cabinet members won't

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  1. conservaliberal

    conservaliberal Well-Known Member

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    And yet the better politically-connected corporations were considered "too big to fail" and were "rescued". Why?

    Honestly, Dairy, the whole rotten thing stunk from top to bottom, and the Fed presided over ALL of it....
     
  2. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Of course not, where did you get that anyone said he specifically said he endorsed Project 2025?

    Democrat "operatives"? Who would those be? Post the link to those "Democrat operatives" who are saying that Trump said he endorsed Project 2025.

    I didn't specifically mention your level of intelligence, that would be a violation of the rules of this forum. So I won't go there, it was a general observation.

    There are multiple articles on that subject, at least one by a Holocaust survivor. But for you, it's "idiotic". I have no problem with that, I would expect nothing less from a Trump worshiper.

    Congratulations counselor. I am Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, depending on the time of the year. What, you don't believe me?

    Bipartisan Legal Group Urges Lawyers to Defend Against ‘Rising Authoritarianism’
    An American Bar Association task force of prominent legal thinkers gestures at former President Trump without naming him.

    A bipartisan American Bar Association task force is calling on lawyers across the country to do more to help protect democracy ahead of the 2024 election, warning in a statement to be delivered Friday at the group’s annual meeting in Chicago that the nation faces a serious threat in “rising authoritarianism.”

    The statement by a panel of prominent legal thinkers and other public figures — led by J. Michael Luttig, a conservative former federal appeals court judge appointed by President George Bush, and Jeh C. Johnson, a Homeland Security secretary during the Obama administration — does not mention by name former President Donald J. Trump.


    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/01/us/politics/american-bar-association-democracy.html

    You and your "attorney" friends should tell these fake lawyers they are completely wrong and Trump is really the best thing since wiener schnitzel. And speaking of wieners, aren't you so impressed by Trump's description of Arnold Palmer's wiener? I mean that was such an important topic of discussion for his worshipers. They don't want to hear about what the stable genius would do for them if elected, they'd rather hear about Arnie's wiener and what he would do to them if he's elected and they start to disagree.

    Well Trump is supporting himself and he is a felon convicted on 34 counts, an adjudicated rapist and charged with multiple crimes in 3 other jurisdictions. So there's that. To each criminal his/her own.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=876121767454797

    Donald Trump’s Project 2025 Agenda

    https://www.heritage.org/conservati...rong-about-project-2025-our-plan-good-america

    Our policy work isn’t about any single presidential candidate, and it never has been. We started our work in the spring of 2022, before Trump announced he was running for a second term and well before any primary.

    Our work also is not unique. Many other think tanks on both sides of the aisle, including the far-left Center for American Progress, do similar work advancing their priorities.

    Finally, our work isn’t new. The Heritage Foundation has produced conservative policy playbooks every election cycle since Ronald Reagan’s victories in 1980 and 1984.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It makes no difference if Trump endorses Project 2025 or not. Policy would NOT be what Trump will be concerned with if he is elected. Staying out of prison, and profiting will be his priorities. Policy will be outsourced... most likely to JD Vance, who is one of the authors of Project 2025

    If would be ridiculous to state that Trump endorses Project 2025 because that would imply that he KNOWS what is in it. A clearly absurd assumption. Trump has ZERO interest in any government policy other than what benefits HIM. He doesn't care, and he doesn't have the brains to understand it anyway.
     
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  5. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    credible proof needed. I am not holding my breath
     
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    Where's the evidence? She doesn't have reputable people who worked for her coming out and saying she shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House.

    Trump is the incompetent jackass you guys support. Every charge made against him is made, lies and all, against his opponents.

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    If Trump gets in and tries to suspend the Constitution as he says he might, there will be hell to pay. The economy will grind to a halt as the MAGA crowd will find they can't run it without the help and support of educated people.
     
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    So where in the video did anyone say that Trump specifically said he endorses Project 2025?

    Sure, the article is dated "Oct 2, 2024", Trump's name is mentioned over 300 times in Project 2025 and Project 2025 would never exist without Trump. And you're trying convince who exactly, yourself?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you failed to prove your claim and I proved that bubblehead says it's Trump's plan
     
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    If Kamala gets in and threatens to use nuclear weapons on red states there will be hell to pay

    Hey if we are going to engage in speculative bullshit let's go for whoppers. I wonder if there is a P Diddy Freak out with Kamala?
     
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    Which is why they have nukes as deterrents against Planet America too.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know Kamala likes to blow things up.
     
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    You need "proof" that Trump couldn't care less about policy? Do you even LISTEN to his speeches? When does he talk about policy? His two-hour long speeches are about sharks and golf and his "beautiful body".... Totally deranged. But very little about policy. His only "policy" is to stay out of prison!
     
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    Sorry, a "yeah but Trump . . . " and typic LW blather warrants no response.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    failure of proof-try again. Kamala-totally deranged. Laughing about shooting people. Laughing about wiping out constitutional rights. She's another pol pot wannabe
     
  15. Bob0627

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    It's always helpful to believe your own bull, not to mention Trump's bull. You claim to be an attorney but it's difficult to believe you ever wrote a brief, never mind litigated a case.

    A side question for you. Tell me counselor, how do you successfully counter a Rooker-Feldman defense? Any clue? That's something I had to do as a pro se plaintiff.

    Back on topic, nowhere in the video did anyone make the claim that Trump specifically said he endorses Project 2025. Now as for Trump's plan, of course it is and of course Harris said that, she's 100% correct and she is after all a real attorney. It can't be more obvious, Project 2025 would have never existed without Trump. It was specifically designed to be implemented in 2025 if he's elected. You think the year 2025 in the title and Trump's name mentioned over 300 times is for no reason? Why is Harris's or Biden's name not mentioned anywhere in the plan? But good job trying to convince yourself counselor, it must be working for you.
     
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    I did. And there were 2 posts that showed it.
     
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    You admit you know little to nothing about project 25, but claim to know trump isn't involved in some fashion?
    LOL.

    Because trump said he doesn't know about it. He lies.
    He still thinks he won in 2020. Based on nothing but lies.
     
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    If I prove I am an attorney how much money will you donate to this site. ?
    I defended FEDERAL Sentences in FEDERAL courts. state convictions in federal courts were defended by the County DA or in some cases the State AG offices. I did lots of 28 USC 2255 petitions. I recall handling a couple of 2241 petitions but I cannot recall the factual circumstance

    back to topic, Bubblehead claims Trump will adopt and impose Project 2025 on the USA.
     
  19. dairyair

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    It was a bail out I did not like at the time either.

    But without the bailout, we likely would have had a depression as bad as the 1930s or worse.
    I'll take the bailout vs a deep depression.

    The economy recovered in 2 or 3 yrs, vs a decade or more.
     
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    We won't use them first.
     
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    who is WE?
     
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    But you never show the contradictions.
    I didn't claim to know that Trump wasn't involved. I claimed that you had not proved that he was.
     
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    You don't have to prove anything to me, I don't really care. I just don't buy your claim and you further convince me I'm correct.

    The case I litigated was a FEDERAL Section 1983 (civil) case. So no clue, eh? I didn't think so.

    And she's 100% correct and I agree. Not that Trump will actually implement Project 2025 on his own, his criminal co-conspirator appointees will for sure. Anyone who is awake and in possession of reasonable intelligence knows that. Trump doesn't give a crap about Project 2025 and has never read it. He doesn't read anything longer than one sentence. Trump is just in it to stay out of jail and make billions for himself in the process. Trump is just a useful tool for those who want to implement Project 2025 as much as he's Putin's useful tool. And you and all those who bought the bridge are Trump's useful tool. If he wins, you can proudly tell your kids you were responsible for helping undo whatever was left of our Constitutional Republic.
     
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    The United States.
     
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    I really don't think you speak for all of the USA but I agree with you on this one.
     

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