Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

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  1. dagosa

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    1-5 year olds, not capable of high level reasoning “reject” Jesus and he lets them die. GEESUS, any one with a brain would reject such a fallacy if that were the case.
     
  2. dairyair

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    Little kids reject him now.

    He doesn't see kids as innocents?
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    How is strategical placement not EXACTLY what would happen with Trump's wall? You think it would just be placed randomly with no CPB consultation?

    Do you suppose Democrats would give ANY money at all?
     
  4. dairyair

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    It's because it's an utmost ridiculous question.
    They can land anywhere where it's remote.
    Those seeking asylum or work, are not coming to murder, man slaughter and rape. Sure there are bad apples.

    Quit listening to fake news. Or whatever is giving you false info.
    Most will avoid any limelight. They don't want to get deported.
    They do less crimes than legal citizens.
     
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    Unfortunately children are part of our broken world.
     
  6. chris155au

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    They don't need to reject him individually. They are part of our broken world.
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So you think we should just deport all the Hispanics in the US?
     
  8. chris155au

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    Why do you pretend that the US Coastguard and RADAR technology doesn't exist?

    And you haven't said what you mean by people going through the "northern border."

    And you haven't said whether or not you acknowledge that a wall will make it more difficult.

    Aren't you suggesting that illegal employment be eradicated? If that happens, how can they come to seek a better life?

    As for asylum seekers, why the hell do they need to cross illegally if they have good reason to seek asylum?

    Ah yes, the classic lefty response to the crime argument! We're not saying that they commit more crime! However, if not one single illegal alien crossed the border for the rest of the year, are you saying that the number of crimes committed by the end of the year wouldn't be less than if illegal aliens continue to cross the border for the rest of the year? Think hard about this now! You don't want to embarrass yourself!
     
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    How could that POSSIBLY be what @ArchStanton was saying?
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So why don't we fix it?
     
  11. chris155au

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    We definitely should, but does that include making it as easy as possible for illegal aliens to enter the country?
     
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  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    By best estimates there are only about 12 million undocumented aliens of ALL sorts. 30 millon exceeds that by enough that you are going to have to take about half of the 58 million hispanics that are here and are CITIZENS
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Well, yes, just what do you mean by broken world anyway, except one where thousands of people are in places where they don't want to be
     
  14. dairyair

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    Would Jesus deny access? Are you one who claims we are a christian nation?
    Won't Jesus be fruitful to those christian nations who help? Does he not look after nations that support his teachings?
    Is putting up walls something Jesus would do?

    Why is it the left and liberals are the one's showing empathy towards people seeking a better life and you so called Christians want them to rot in the desert.
    Some have even called for military at the border shooting anyone coming within X feet. Some real Christians we have in this country. Especially those who support the lying, wife cheating, 3X married, prostitute seeker, woman crotch grabber of a prez.
     
  15. chris155au

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    @ArchStanton has a different idea of the numbers than you do. He was explicit about this.
     
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    Hold on, are you for open borders?
     
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    I hope that you're working on post #983. http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-lets-find-out.548832/page-50#post-1070133048
     
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    There's damn near 12 million just in Texas and there certainly is in California. Even hard core liberals at MIT and Yale estimate the number to be up to 29.5 million.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...bles-estimates-of-u-s-undocumented-immigrants

    I don't need a study. I've lived the invasion first hand. The hispanic population in Texas is every bit of 40%. In the '80's, less than 10%.

    Whites are the minority here when adding hispanics and blacks.
     
  19. dagosa

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    It’s the same thing. But Dems know trump is an idiot and wants to spend the whole 5 billion year on a wall and not let science decide. Don’t be silly.it’s not just about the border patrol either. It’s about engineers and lawyers as well and .he has no plan what so ever and no details. It’s that simple. The Govt can not work on his say so..lThey never have.
     
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    Another perspective on the wall:

     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm for practical solutions to real world problems. Not outrageously expensive and ineffective symbols.
     
  22. Professor Peabody

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    I said.......

    You replied.......

    ....What does the 2009 Budget have to do with economic reasons to build a real wall. You're confused. If there's a point make it.
     
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    Here it is AGAIN! :roll: Hint: Try reading the thread.

    That's $7,248,800 just for a bed per day. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,248,800 X 365 = $2,645,812,000 per year. They are costing us half of what Trump's asking for a wall PER YEAR not including health care and legal fees.
     
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    That was from 2016, so highly outdated, talking about a wall that would stretch the entire border and costing 25 million. The only argument that still applies is the 'keeping people in' one, which is bullshit. Build the wall and then ramp up ICE deportation operations to clean the house. This way, woman and children don't get raped by pieces of human waste when crossing into the US from Mexico. This wall is as much about a humanitarian solution as anything. Even if it didn't prevent one single alien from entering the US, at least women and children would stop being raped.
     
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    Still no proof of your assertion? :roflol:
     

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