Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

If you are on welfare you are not working. You are either on welfare or you are working.

 

Not sure what you mean?

 

You can't see the difference between a wall to keep people in vs a wall to keep people out? Really?

 

There's a ****ing work requirement. Anyone on welfare is either working or looking for a job. Anyone sitting on their ass (unless disabled) doesn't qualify for aid.

As someone that has been on SNAP (WHILE WORKING) and would have starved otherwise, **** you.

 

Nobody builds a wall part way across the front of their house. Your analogy is nonsense.

If we care about drugs, we should address drugs. The wall does NOT address drug traffiic.
If we want people not to come and stay illegally, we should address the major ways AND reasons people do that.

The overall issue is that Trump has no plan. He doesn't say what would be built. He doesn't say how effective it would be. He ignores all other effective methods of achieving the ends he claims to want - see the 2013 bipartisan immigration bill.

Plus, his actions against asylum seekers, DACA kids, etc. range between totally immoral and counterproductive.

Perhaps as importantly, Trump needs to learn that there is a legislator and that there exists a Democratic party in America - both of which his methods totally deny.

 

I didn't know. Sorry. No Insult to you intended. Many people didn't work that were on welfare as I remember unless they knew how to get around the rules. When did the law change?

 

They talk about unauthorized immiigrants.

They also talk about illegal immigration - a process or method can be illegal. A person can't be illegal.

Democrats in the US Senate passed the 2013 bipartisan immigration bill that had $44B for the southern border, fixes to our visa system and job protection to reduce the reason for people to want to come and stay as undocumented aliens.

Trump is NOT providing a good solution to ANYTHING.

He's got no plan.

He's selling his demand based on pure emotiong, especially against Hispanics, but also concerning drugs - which his wall idea does NOT address.

He has totallly refused to negotiate - not even PENCE has been allowed to negotiate.

 

There were significant changes during the Reagan and Clinton administrations. Bush43 tightened requirements, too. Obama had to contennd with the economic crash, but didn't push for relaxing requirements as far as I know.

I don't know how far back you are looking.

Yet, the right wing claims about welfare queens and disgust about people doing things like being poor, having the wrong skin color, not being ablee to pay to solve ongoing health care issues, etc., ccontinue.

It's hard to ignore the calls to consider those who need help as being scum. And, it's hard to get a real picture of how long people actually remain on aid before they are on their own again, since most stats focus on how many need help during some specific month or year.

We DON'T heare that the average time on SNAP is less than a year or that 80% of SNAP recipients had a job the year before or the year after getting aid.

 

Oh bullshit. Maybe you could have gave up your iphone, netflix, nice car payments, weed, etc. But you didn't want to. You'd rather make this wild ass claim instead of being responsible.

 

You're charging all those on SNAP, as you have nothing on this specific poster.

So, how about coughing up a cite.

 

This reminds me of the so called popular vote.

When a party has either house, they have effective total control over said house.

YES, republicans had total domination over the House.

NO, they did not in the Senate. The rules of the Senate were a lock on the Republicans that they simply could not bust.

Even though they gained some seats in the Senate, Schumer can simply stop any law or bill he so desires to stop. It is in the Rules.

Watch how it turns out today. Schumer knows he can kill off any proposed law by Republicans and will stop them in their tracks today.

 

Each State runs the SNAP program. CA has a so called surplus. They can kick in state money and make it work.

 

You don’t even understand the concept of welfare people who are earning the minimum wage and who have two children need public assistance whether it be food stamps or Medicaid. What do you think welfare is only for people who don’t work?

 

The public has not voted up or down on the wall. Democrats allege they picked up offices on the issue of health care.

 

Actually what you are saying is probably true because more people are leaving this country than trying to come in illegally and that has been going on for several years

 

That is not the true story here in CA. A single non working, not looking for any job, man or woman can collect on SNAP. And the State of CA has strange rules. Such as being lousy at paying the early SNAP funds to the citizen that did the dog and pony filling out of the many forms just to start collecting. They run you ragged with having to prove you are qualified. And if you think these facts are wrong, it is up to you to prove them wrong.

First payment to collect = $11. Later CA kicked it up to close to $30. Anyway, some months after got it up to $178 as I recall. Same facts, same person and if there is a person that comprehends how CA with no changes to any facts managed to slip the man only $11 but found he later merited almost $180 per month sure is a puzzle to me.

But they force you to give them your life story annually. And they change case workers almost each month. Not sure why that is either.

 

Trump made one major error as to the wall. He managed to make the wall about Trump. When Obama got billions and poured that money into the wall, he managed to take credit for it, but had not made it about himself, per se.

Trump may have believed Mexico is a fair country. But he was totally wrong. They don't care if those entering Mexico from their south depart to their north. Trump is partly fixing that by getting Mexico to keep those from their south as guests of Mexico.Mexico will wake up that the wall is cheaper than being the storage bin of countries south of themselves. Then the will have incentive to pay part of the costs of the wall. But democrats who favor Mexico over this country want to clog up the toilet.

 

When they leave a place where their cost of daily life is a lot cheaper, it is a sudden shock to them that in the USA costs to survive are a lot more. Also Obama built a wall and the Democrats hailed it as very welcome. Now the cheap bastridges pretend they care about the cost. Even when Trump makes it cheaper, even were the wall totally for free, the Democrats do not want one today.

 

My apology to you. Welfare rules have evidently changed since my business years.

 

Trump's failure to keep his vow regarding "something terrific!" healthcare that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!" was one of a plethora of issues that provoked the blue wave.

Be sure to let me know when your messiah calls for a national referendum concerning his "big, beautiful wall" that he had repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for.

 

Excuse me, but could you direct me to the caravans forming to leave the country?

 

Good lord. I understand. I once was also a hateful Democrat. I get your propaganda.

 

Compose yourself. Your "hate" is your concern.

Amidst all the polls confirming that most Americans do not want Trump's wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for, you correctly noted that "The public has not voted up or down on the wall." I asked you to let me know when such a national referendum occurs.

You had also tried claiming that the November vote was about healthcare. I acknowledged that it was one of many issues because Trump's promise of "something terrific!" healthcare that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!" had not been kept either.

 

Well, you sure put effort out to add nothing. I lost my hate by joining the republicans.

 

Praise your messiah.

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