Will Hillary Clinton Be Charged With Perjury?

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    The America of my youth was racist, sexist, and homophobic. Why go back to that?
     
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    The reason a one party system was averted is that we have an electoral college. Remember?

    Vulcans? Spock? Do you have a point related to the subject?

    Your politeness is so noted.

    I'm here because I find politics entertaining. You must be here to change the world. Right?
     
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  3. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    We sure spend a lot of time talking about impeachment, jailing Hillary, etc. instead of the real issues.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I think the President criminally stealing the election is a real and very important issue. Our elections pretty much ARE our country.
     
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    Because life was better for most people. There was more happiness. Less hatred. Less greed. Less terrorism. More freedom.
    Racism, sexism and homophobia are a problem for those who practice it. There weren't any more of them then than there are now.
     
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    It would be a real and important issue if he had stolen the election. But we don't have stolen elections in this country. His was no different.
     
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    Yes, and look at the dirty tricks the DNC pulled. And then cases like 400,000 voters purged in NY in areas that it was thought would have gone for sanders. You guys set great examples. While your accusations against trump are conjecture, for there isn't the evidence. As there is with your team.

    A common dirty trick of your team is to accuse the opposition of what you did and tried to hide. And then deny it.

    I left the DP in the 90s for reasons I have stated on this forum. And yet if I had stayed with the party, this 2016 election would have forced me out due to conscience. I could not be a member of a party that is now the DP. And don't have much of a positive view for those who don't have a conscience.
     
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  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Your defense there is like the guy selling tiger repellent.
    "But there aren't any tigers within a thousand miles"
    "See how well it works"
    The EC is functionally nonexistent, that is, it isn't there unless the popular vote is close, and one party rule wasn't really an issue in any of the elections it determined.

    You poor benighted nonTrekkie, My contention was that the valuation we place on things is an emotional decision itself. Emotion is integral to all thought, some more than others but always there.

    I'm here because I see Trump and his ilk changing the world in ways I won't like. See how entertaining you find politics from inside the fence of a concentration camp
     
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    One more time. Without the EC we would evolve into one party system. It is functional in every national election.

    True but unrelated to the thread.

    Hyperbole is a very poor debate technique. We don't even have concentration camps in the U.S. and nobody supports them.
     
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    Perjury is but one of her crimes.
    Shes also guilty of espionage too
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    We should be discussing the underlying problems, not carrying on about impeachment. We seem focused on the baby before we've even had sex.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    She's history. How about focusing on the Bloviator-in-Chief?
     
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    White men, perhaps. Women? Don't think so ... my mother was in the Who's Who of American Women because she was the mayor of a small city. She wouldn't make a list like that today. Minorities? No, of course not. Everyday folks? What if you had a heart problem fifty years ago? Cancer?

    My wife and I travel the world. We think nothing of hopping a plane to Paris. Everyday folks thought of a Paris visit as the trip of a lifetime.
    Less terrorism ... unless you were a black living in the South. Less hatred? Ditto. More freedom? Unless you were a homosexual. I think you're looking back through rose-colored glasses.
    How about those on the receiving end?
    People are much more tolerant and inclusive today.
     
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    So we saw different things back in the day.
     
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    Sure, but this thread is about hillary, not your nightmares.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    That we did.
     
  17. Fred C Dobbs

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    You must have lived in a dysfunctional neighborhood.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a very real and serious issue.

    This was the candidate the Democrats chose as the best they had to offer and she won the popular vote. Do you not seriously believe this is an issue for the country and a blot on the American electorate? How could a candidate of her low caliber and checkered history ever arrive at this position of power unless there was a conspiracy, or the majority of the electorate were completely clueless?

    While understanding your preference to avoid the subject this ignorance by the majority of the electorate is a serious problem for the country. They just turned down a good man for the VA because of gossip, questioned Mike Pompeo's qualifications, and yet supported and voted for Hillary Clinton. That is a serious issue.
     
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    I addressed the point about Hillary--she's not worth considering.
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    I did--in Southern California. The dentist across the street came from Little Rock, AK--why did he come to CA? Because, he said, there were too many n*ggers in Little Rock. Ten years later he moved to Redding, CA. How come? There were too many n*ggers in Southern California. That was America back then.
     
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    And post messages to try to deflect from the topic of this thread.
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    Yeah, sure it is--when Wall Street bankers ripped off millions of Americans for trillions of dollars ten years ago and nothing was done about it.
    Hillary and Trump weren't the best candidates in either party.
    I'd rather focus on our failed healthcare system, rip-off businesses and unions, the idiotic "war on drugs," racism, sexism, our failing public schools, entitlement programs, and on and on. I don't care if Hillary or the Bloviator-in-Chief get locked up even though I think both of them are crooks--she on the smaller scale, he on the larger.
    How did the Bloviator-in-Chief "arrive at this position of power?" They're both crooks.
    Let the DoJ do whatever they're going to do about these two. Neither one will get convicted because the jury will tribe up and some people won't vote to convict because they'll assume the prosecution is a witch hunt.
    The Doc wasn't turned down; he quit after the Bloviator-in-Chief gave him what the baseball manager gets just before they fire him.

    IMO, if he wasn't guilty of the sins he's been charged with, he should have said so and hung in there.

    Frankly, I don't think he was the best guy for the job. The VA is a huge bureaucracy and needs a nasty SOB to go through the damn mess like a knife through warm butter.
     
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    Or dentists back then. But I certainly take your point
     
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    That's another that can also be discussed.
    The rest were all swamp dwellers and of course Hillary Clinton was the Queen of the Swamp.
    No reason why any of these can't be discussed. New threads are started regularly.
    There is no evidence that Trump did anything crooked. What Hillary did was to commit actual crimes.
    I'll be interested in the OIG's report.
    Trump was right. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/04/25/jon-tester-ronny-jackson-allegations-ac360.cnn
    How can any person react to 'sins' that are only gossip.
    Who would be your best choice? Obama had nothing but praise for him.
     
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    Sounds like a slam dunk case...lol...I am sure now that a good Republican is in office and his appointees control the DOJ, they will be coming to arrest her every day...Otherwise it will become obvious that all of these alleged crimes are only part of a hostile disinformation campaign cooked up by a bunch of Russian mobsters and intel operatives....I, for one would be willing to bet any of you poor pathetically misinformed people $10,000 that she will not be indicted or charged, let alone, "locked up"..I really think that the GOP and Fox News are intertwined with a bunch of Russian mobsters.
     
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