Will you take the Trump Vaccine?

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    Hell no for me! The Trump administration is trying to fast track some sh*t before the election, without adequate testing trials?!! Let trump supporters be the guinea pigs for this vaccine?!!

    Premature Release of Covid-19 Vaccine Could Be a 'Dangerous Experiment on the American People,' Nurses Union Warns

    "We have already seen far too many examples of the erosion of scientific integrity and the subversion of public health through political intervention and pressure by the Trump administration and corporate employers."

    Following news that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention asked states to prepare for potential distribution of a Covid-19 vaccine by November 1, medical experts and advocacy organizations are warning that politics should not be made a priority over public health.

    "As anxious as the country is for health security and protection against Covid-19, we cannot subject people to greater risk to score political points for a president who has, for months, demonstrated his abandonment of public health and safety in the face of this terrible pandemic," Bonnie Castillo, a registered nurse and executive director of National Nurses United (NNU), said in a statement Thursday.

    Public health experts have raised alarm over the possibility that President Donald Trump will try to use a prematurely approved vaccine as an "October surprise" to boost his reelection chances.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...merican-people


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    I am very very pro vaccine but I would hesitate to take a vaccine that has bypassed necessary clinical trials

    What makes people ultra cautious about distributing untested vaccines is that you are giving this to healthy people. No one wants to make a healthy person sick from something that should protect them. We know that even in the best tested vaccines there will be a small number of adverse events. Swine flu showed that there will be an increase in Guillian-Barre Syndrome we KNOW that this can be an adverse outcome but we do not want to see a vaccine that causes more GB than it saves with covid immunity
     
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    Trump puts pressure on FDA for coronavirus silver bullet ahead of Election Day

    Washington (CNN)Facing a persistent polling deficit and a struggling economy, President Donald Trump has cranked up pressure on administration health officials to expedite work both on a coronavirus vaccine and on treatments that might signal to voters there is an end in sight to the life-altering pandemic that has imperiled his reelection prospects.

    In both his public remarks and through private prodding, Trump has pushed for more good news on the pandemic and has insisted that even developments considered minor by health experts be expanded into major announcements for which he can claim credit.

    And he's looking to the Food and Drug Administration for the biggest one.

    Facing one of the most critical moments in its tenure since it was founded over a hundred years ago, officials inside the FDA say the tension is palpable. A number of sources familiar with the internal workings told CNN the responsibility feels immense and the environment is akin to that of a pressure cooker. In the last week alone, FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn was forced to apologize for an overhyped plasma announcement, subsequently removed a newly installed communications aide and found himself on the receiving end of criticism from the West Wing.

    That's a distant cry from earlier this year, when Hahn -- the man Trump is now pressuring for a solution to the crisis -- wasn't initially included on his coronavirus task force. When Vice President Mike Pence added a second round of officials to the group, Hahn's name still wasn't listed. It wasn't until five weeks after the group was formed that Hahn was named a formal task force member.

    Yet if Hahn was once relegated to the periphery, six months later he finds himself squarely at the center of what officials and experts see as a full-on press to deliver a silver bullet that can end the crisis -- and rescue the President's reelection bid.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/03/polit...ine/index.html


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    Presumably they will give it to front line workers first. So as long as the reporting on their responses to the vaccine are normal, I'll be getting it. If it was just being approved on Trump's say-so, then no, I obviously don't trust him. Doctors, nurses, and EMTs should effectively act as a trial for the rest of us.

    If they try to push it out to everyone at once, though, then we should all be suspicious. Regular folks should only be getting the vaccine once health workers, first responders, supply chain workers, teachers, and at-risk patients get it.
     

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