Women's Rights vs. Trans Rights

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    Women's Rights vs. Trans Rights.

    Democrat Politicians, in America are all for Trans Rights, but then they say they're all for women's rights also.

    But how can that be true, if they allow Trans Men, to compete in Women's sports?
    It is biological proven, that most biological men, can out perform most biological women, in most sports. So, wouldn't be giving trans men, the right to perform in women's sports, taking away women's rights?

    All the hard work that women put fourth in high school, and college sports, or professional, would go to waste, if that spot was taken by a trans man. But wait! Trans rights are Trans rights, correct? If Democrat Politicians block trans men from competing in women's sports, then isn't that taking away right from Trans men?

    It's a contradiction. Either way, it takes away, either rights from women, or trans men.
     
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    The contradiction is that a large amount of the transgender community and its supporters actually do have concerns over the sports issue. This is by far not something that the community as a whole is pushing. There have been calls for reevaluating how sports are divided, with suggestions like divisions as you might find with boxing, where skill and body and other factors puts you in competition with those your equal. But if sports is the only problem you have, outside of religion, then you really don't have much. This area would be the exception to the rule when it comes to trans rights vs women's right. Of course, you are also doing what every other transphone and homophobe does: only address the males, and completely ignore/deny the female side (trans men and lesbians)
     
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    Both women's rights and trans rights is confusing to me. What provision in the Constitution says brightstone apply to women or trans people?
     
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    sigh. It's in far more many things. Women and Men have different test scores physically, when it comes to being in the military, or being a cop or a fire fighter.

    What if a Trans Cop showed up all by themself at a rape victims scence, how easily would it be to have the victim possibly think that they're still in danger?

    from being raped and molested myself, I can tell you personally, that if I saw a trans cop show up all by themself, I would be freaking out, and I would personally think, that a little child especially would as well. Because that is when those things mainly happened to me.

    So, yes! It matters a lot!

    I'm guessing, that a huge percentage of people who turn out gay, lesbian, and trans, have been raped, and or molested atleast one point and time in their lives, and that is why Democrat Politicians in some states want for rapists and murderers to be able to vote.

    It's a sick viscious cycle, of evil, and nastyness.
     
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    Trans men don't typically outcompete non-trans men in sports (except maybe gymnastics?) so it's fair to focus on trans women who do have an advantage over non-trans women in sports.
     
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    if a person can cheat the system people will. men pretending their a woman, so they can go to a womans prison, so they can get women pregnant.

    old men that are child molestors, can pretend that they're women, and then go into the women's bathroom to watch underage girl change. and the Democrat Politicians are ok with this.

    probably because they love raping underage girls themselves. Joe taking showers with his daughter. Bill getting caught flying in jeffrey epstiens private plane to underage girl fantasy island.
     
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    old men that are child molesters, don't need to pretend that they're women, and then go into the men's bathroom to watch underage boys change. and the Republican Politicians are ok with this.
    old women (and young given the teacher stories lately) that are child molesters, don't need to pretend that they're men, and then go into the women's bathroom to watch underage girls change. and the Republican Politicians are ok with this.
    old women that are child molesters, to pretend that they're men, and then go into the men's bathroom to watch underage boys change. and the Republican Politicians won't even consider this possibility.
     
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    From what I can see, the Republicans like underage kids even more.

    Part 1
     
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    Part 6


    Republican total:52
    Democrat total:33

    Republican child count: 8
    Democrat child count: 5
     
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    My party aren't the ones that allow murderers and rapists in Prisons to vote. duh?
    That says alot right there alone. That Democrat Politicians are ok with rewarding rapists, for how they act, by treating them as normal every day people, and not Felons that have committed sick crimes.

    Most rapists, and child molesters are Democrats. Most Catholics are Democrats over Republicans. talking about priests and young boys. The sexual revolution, and sex, and teaching sexual education to minors is what party? Yep, it's Democrat Politicians.

    their motto should be, catch em while their young. disney, brittney spears, sex symbols to millions of girls over years looking up to them.

    Maybe ask Jeffrey Epstien and slick willy about underage island? Anyone can be accussed, whilst others, well, there's a lot more logic that is more than likely happened.

    many gay people were once themselves raped and or molested, and that is part of a huge reason why they become gay themselves, because of the horrific abuse to their minds, and they can't handle it. Which is understandable. But the Democrat Politicians support the cycle of this evil in general.
     
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    "Ironic", how the schooling system is so liberal now hu? talk about child molesters.
     
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    Your party is the one that has the most sexual predators and the most child molesters. And all you can come up with is strawman non-sequitur arguments about unrelated topics. As you noted, that says a lot right there alone.

    You are actually incorrect in that. All states have felony disenfranchisement and most are set to restore them upon completion of a sentence. Three states, Iowa, Kentucky, and Virginia, have permanent disenfranchisement. So you are wrong that the Dems are allowing fellons to vote in prison. Now there are many non felony crimes where the convicted do not lose their voting right, and maybe you are mixing the two up.

    Bring your statistics to support this. Your claim, your responsibility.

    You have yet to prove that this is a bad thing except in your opinion.

    Conspiracy theory section is that way -->

    The same island that Trump went to? All that tells us is that people in both parties are doing these things, which I clearly showed above. You just haven't proved that it is a vast majority of Dems, as you are claiming.

    First we are talking about transgender people, not homosexual people. So you are still in non-sequitur country. This is before your conspiracy theory cause of homosexuality. But feel free to bring the proof on that as well.
     
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    Some wonder what effect the embrace of transgenderism will have on military readiness.

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    Methinks you've never run afoul a ladyboy in Bangkok. Trans folks can be fierce.
     
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    But the trans community is pushing to use bathrooms and locker rooms of their choice. Ignoring and outright slapping women's privacy to the wayside.
     
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    Are they though? Or is this just a pet issue that others take up thinking they are helping? Does the average everyday trans person actually care all that much about bathrooms? I think they have have other concerns.
     
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    Yes they do. I know a trans person and he (real pronoun not made up BS) really does care about what bathroom he goes into and what locker room he goes into. Find me one trans that uses the bathroom or Locke room outside of their chosen fake gender.
     
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    The restrooms is a moot point and a red herring. It doesn't matter whether the person is trans or cis, man or woman, male or female. If they are peeking into your stall while you are using it they are a problem.

    Changing rooms are something even transgenders have an issue with. The overall nudity issue in a changing room is nowhere near the same issue as a restroom is. But it's not like it's any easier to have trans women use the men's room either, especially if they are transitioning. And given the call for trans genders to use the changing room of their birth sex, then you are calling for trans men who have had a full transition to use the women's changing room. And of course it's amazing that you all seem so worried that gay men are checking out little boys in the men's room, but for some reason ignore that there are gay women in the women's changing rooms. Nor do you seem to be concerned about women posing as trans men to gain access to the men's changing room to prey on little boys, despite several stories of women who have been preying on minor males.
     
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    I beg to differ. You are thinking of one sex whe a woman could possibly be trying to urinate while standing in front of kids. But it’s also not just the view we have to worry about. It’s about the sexual predators that may not even be transgender at all or it really may be. For example the school kid that was supposedly a transgender that sexually assaulted girls in the bathroom multiple times. One was his old girlfriend, the other was a random grope supposedly. To say it can’t happen is asinine
     
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    The trans I know has no hard time with it. Obvious guy, facial hair, manly voice, male esophagus, no fake trans surgery. Just puts on the cloths and wigs and cells himself a her. Still expects to use all female facilities. There is absolutely no issue with him using them and feeling entitled to them locker room and all. Swimming pool changing rooms no issue there either.

    there should be no issue with societies response to not allow this as well. It should never be accepted as a norm to allow many to feel uncomfortable or abused for the feelings of such a select few.

    I don’t much care how out of place a transgender would feel who has not gone through surgery if they were required to go to a locker room that fits their junk. At least they won’t be carrying around the tool in a private area the can sexually assault the other with.
     
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    So would it have made a difference if the school kid who sexually assaulted the girls in the bathroom multiple times was a lesbian old girlfirend of the one girl assaulted? Or if the boy had gone in without even claiming to be transgender?
     

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