Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

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  1. Darth Gravus

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    That does not mean that there is blind loyalty to the POTUS.

    I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
     
  2. Arkanis

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    Like some Germans in the rubble of Berlin in '45, you'd still be worshiping Trump if he started World War III.

    The cult...
     
  3. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Of course.
     
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    Yeah people like to use this word but for once it seems it actually applies. Backchannelling with our nation's greatest rival/enemy's top general is bad enough, telling them that you're going to keep the president from acting by illegally violating civilian control/chain of command of the military is far over the line.
     
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    I just want to thank again all of the courageous and principled repubs who resisted trump's coup attempt.
    Those who are still peddling his big lie bullshit should be ashamed to call themselves Americans.
     
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    Yeah, that shipped sailed for me in January. I don't know much about Pence but, forget bus, he got thrown under a speeding train. Pence took an oath to our country, not our POTUS and Trump could not have created a more loyal VP if he built one from the ground up. He lied directly to his supporters and almost got a man seriously hurt or killed. His supporters still think Pence is a traitor. The Pence family started staying in hotels and with family after the Capitol riot. That's unconsciousable.

    Trump clearly doesn't know the Constitution or the legal certification process and he was betting his supporters were just as ignorant and they showed up to the Capitol to prove that assumption correct.

    That's why he is permanently banned from social media. These people are throwing away their own loyalty to their country for a con artist who, to this day, continues to lie to them. It's sick and toxic no matter how you slice it.
     
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    They aren't Americans. Like him, they are traitors to our country and Constitution. He said he might leave the country if Biden won the election. I hope he does and take all the rest of the traitors with him. Good riddance!
     
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    Which would involve them going through the chain of command and requesting the president be removed by 25th amendment or impeachment or actually disobeying an actually given unlawful order when it is actually given.
    It doesn't involve them backchanneling with the head general of one of our only enemies at this point telling them they're neutering our ability to respond to a nuclear strike.
     
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    You guys claimed Trump would start a war with North Korea. Do we want to forget that? He stabilized them and now look at them with Biden shooting missiles over Japan. He shut down the Russians in Syria. He shut down the Iranians in Iraq by nailing their terrorist General when he got caught in Iraq with a lead terrorist.

    The "Cult of Trump" is in your Leftist heads. People like that he represents anti-Establishment. You don't seem to get that you're bowing the the Elite and Establishment like mindless robots is what others are against. I think Trump is an ogre, but I see his actions and policies were real wins on a regular basis for the U.S.A.

    Trump got NATO engaged and upgraded. He got peace deals done that were historic.

    What Milley did is pure Treason if true. Supporting that makes those doing it anti-American, anti-Constitution, and enemies of the people of the United States who put him in office by the Constitution.
     
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    You don't even know the meaning of the word treason.
    Was it out of the ordinary? Yes, it was. All of these soldiers and government people are sworn to uphold the constitution, so there is no treason if their actions are directed at a specific person, potus for example. The Article you post has nothing to do with this. A commander is allowed to not obey another commander if what they are doing is unconstitutional or illegal. Trump and Trump cult members want him to be king, not have to answer to anyone. Why, I have no idea. And most of them consider themselves "conservative". Follow a fool, be a fool.
     
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    You are arguing a counterfactual and claiming someone else has a irrational view? Beautiful!

    WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMERICA’S TOP GENERAL AND A CHINESE SPY?

    “Milley went so far as to pledge he would alert his counterpart in the event of a U.S. attack, stressing the rapport they’d established through a backchannel. ‘General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.'”

    Well, that explains all the spooning with the Taliban. I look forward to the day DeSantis fires this traitor.
     
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    A plane also didn't crash into the White House or Capitol on 9/11.... doesn't mean many people weren't worried about that during that morning...

    Some epic RW logic there...
     
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    This is my favorite Milley exchange from what has been released from Woodwards book so far

    SNIP
    Pelosi then told Milley, "He's crazy. You know he's crazy."

    "He's crazy and what he did yesterday is further evidence of his craziness," Pelosi said, referring to the deadly Capitol riot.

    According to the book, Milley responded: "I agree with you on everything."
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-milley-said-i-agree-pelosi-called-trump-crazy-book-2021-9
     
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    Russia has like 20,000 troops in Syria, they control the government of Syria.

    How is that "shutting" anything down?
     
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    Many people wonder how a dictatorship is established in a country.

    In this way.

    With the unwavering support of a fringe of the population that believes to be a victim of injustice and invested with an almost divine mission.

    If democratic institutions were more fragile in the US, Trump would have become the new Putin.

    Biden's election would have been overturned and the US would be an authoritarian regime today.
     
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    These hospitals, should not give all their ICU beds to unvaccinated covid patients?!! I would just allocate a third of the beds to them, you have many other people with life threatening illnesses that should priority over the unvaccinated?!!

    I agree with Jimmy too?!!
     
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    OK I don't know how that isn't at least espionage, if not treason. Probably both. We need a trial to sort that out.
     
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    ALMOST divine mission??? I think you've missed some of the general derangement on that topic... before you click on the link, guess who said this???

    SNIP
    “This guy is providential. He didn’t happen by accident. How in the world, in our political system, could Donald J. Trump come on the scene in 2016 and do what he did? Tell me. God’s watching.
    ENDSNIP

    Some basement-dwelling nutjob?? Well.... yes, that too... also a sitting US Senator

    https://www.ajc.com/opinion/columni...send-donald-trump/7NDMSXTS6BGBFFZX7J5N2NBJHE/
     
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    Are you in the right conversation?
     
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    @Arkanis, @Darth Gravus,

    Do you know of any legal way this rule can be revamped? After the hell we just went through with the last Administration, maybe the POTUS shouldn't be the only one that can push the nuke button. We might be teetering on the edge again if somebody elects another anti-American monster.
     
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    Milley is quilt of treason.
     
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    I would be cool with this no matter who was POTUS. I would absolutely be okay with it if any of those former POTUSes acted like Trump did after the election.

    I just posted (before seeing your post) asking how we can make sure no one person has the codes. I don't want my kids fried because somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed and stubbed their big toe.
     
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    Hysterical TDS is an illness.
     
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    So many claims from the TDS like Milley of what Trump would do that never happened. Someone would think they would get a clue but the syndrome is simply neurotic.
     
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    *LOL*

    Preventing an unstable nutjob from using nukes is "treason"?
     
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