Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons

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  1. mswan

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    We have an elected civilian Commander in Chief...unless leftists don’t like him.
     
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    Yes, the military doesn’t get to make that decision. He committed treason.
     
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    OK. And?
     
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    The democrats said the same thing about Reagan and of course nothing happened.

    Now you have a severely compromised President in office and of course none of this applies. LOL
     
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    Then it’s OK to undercut his authority: Ted Kennedy in 1980, John Kerry throughout Trump’s administration, and that a**hole Milley in the last 12 months.
     
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    First the order has to be verified by the Secretary of State as the legitimate order of the President. Second if the President is insane as Milley is suggesting the 25th Amendment is invoked. Third if Milley was plotting to usurp the legal authority of the Executive Branch, the CIVILIAN control of the military he should be fired, especially if he was indicating to the leader of our enemy he would not follow the legal orders of the President. And some top secret military plan against the Commander in Chief?


    He should have resigned in protest if that is how he felt.
     
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    They didn’t betray the nation, attempt to kill a leader or adheres to our enemies — how does it fit the legal definition of treason?
     
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    I don't believe this was to undercut his authority. It seems like it was more of a move to protect him from himself.

    Trump said that he would not be well if Biden won the election and he was right.

    It's not the exact same scenario but those of us that have been in law enforcement see it constantly. A superior officer is skirting the edge of a cliff and you can't just stand there and let them beat a person to oblivion or possibly kill them. Sometimes, even as a subordinate, you are the only one around with a level head and lives need to be saved. Write me up or suspend me later, but today, I'm asking my boss for his weapon before he unloads it on somebody for little to no damn reason.
     
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    There is NO DOUBT that a prepared enemy responds more effectively than a surprised enemy. This woke SOB is fine with US casualties. He identifies more with the military leaders of foreign forces than the folks whose lives are under his command.

    He has absolutely has no more business in his position than Biden/Harris//Blinken.
     
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    On the new book revelations...Dan Quayle Saves American Democracy!? Pence called Quayle for advice on returning certified ballots to the states and Quayle told him "no way." Who would have thought? Thanks Dan!
     
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    Couldn't have said it better.
     
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    The Military swears an oath to the Constitution. They don't pledge their undying loyalty to the POTUS as trumpists want them to do.
     
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    Why treason? The General didn't disobey an order, he just started setting up a mechanism to triple check any strikes
    against other countries - or California - by Trump.
     
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    Now we know why he worships Jung-un, Xi and Putin. He wants to be Dear Orange Jesus Leader for life with the dynasty handed down to his equally disgusting and corrupt puppies.
     
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    Who needs nukes when q’anon shaman can just use his special q’anon powers to summon Godzilla to overturn the election?
    To think, the face of the “insurrection” is an adult baby in cosplay gear
    Good stuff!
     
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    Thanks?? For a former VP knowing the constitution?? At least one of them did...

    OK, for jumping over that low bar, thanks I guess...
     
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    Gen. Milley, informed a serious, potential adversary that he had co opted the Commander in Chief’s war powers.

    I don’t know if we want to go so far as to hang him, but it’s time for the Senate and House to have a quiet/private conversation as to darkening the lines of command as set forth in the Constitution.

    How do we know the Benevolent General wasn’t trying to egg China on into ramming one of our ships to start a localized skirmish, and maybe fire on one of their ships just to make a point as to who is boss.
    Or maybe the Good General was embarking on diplomacy suggesting that Taiwan is cute, but not worth a war.
    Or maybe the General was looking to get a few diamonds like other Americans seem to find stuck in their shoe on the way home to the USA by pretending that “He” not POTUS was the real power in America.
    It’s time to find out if it is Dr. Strangelove time all over again!
     
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    You do what you gotta do when President Muffley is in the final days....

    Bonus points to anybody who gets that reference...

    Milley was also on the lookout for T**** trying to marry his mistress and poison his German Shepard
     
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    This is accurate. There are occasions where a supervisor is unable to see things clearly, and is headed the wrong direction. Yeah, it's going to cause a flare up but it's better than the alternative.

    Hell, I've disarmed one of my trainees before and locked his pistol in my briefcase until I could get him back to the SO. That reminds me of a sgt we had on nights for a while, he was such a clot they gave him a special op- he was our shifts "anti-crime" unit. He was the only one. They gave him areas/assignments LEAST likely to have any actual crime. That guy was a sh^tstorm.
     
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    Which particular action do you feel is treason?? Reminding people that he's in the loop for nuclear launch procedures??

    I don't think so....

    The China phone calls might be a little more disturbing, so we need to know more about those... who initiated and what was discussed, but I'll easily stand with Milley until we know more...
     
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    Actually. Trump did nothing.
    This General just up and called China’s Xi Jinping and told him in so many words, “Forget POTUS. I am the power now.”
     
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    "OLD AND BUSTED: Establishment leftists fear a Seven Days in May moment":

    The New Hotness? Coup: Milley Secretly Took Control of the Military, Despite Not Being Elected to Any Office;
    Totalitarian Left Wing Press Cheers
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    Who is claiming this?

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    It's Beckler's claim. Milley needs to be questioned under oath to determine if Court-Martial is in order.
    Milley usurped the powers of the ELECTED US President in front of our highest military commanders and not ONE resigned or blew the whistle? Miley and everyone in the meeting needs to be fired.

    Milley seized control of the military away from the duly elected president.

    What was the reason for Milley's coup?
    The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS) is the principal military advisor to the president. The CJCS is prohibited by law from having operational command authority over the armed forces.

    Milley, who is and ADVISOR to the President who is the COMMANDER discovered that Our COMMANDER had signed a military order to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan before he left the White House. Milley, in his arrogance decided that Trump could not command OUR troops without Milley's consent. He described this as a "an end run around his top military advisers."

    Let that sink in. Trump, the Commander "attempted an end run around his top military advisers."

    "By deciding to ignore the advice of his advisers. So they're not advisers -- the President is merely a" supplicant who must obtain their permission.

    "The Deep State military coupists are the actual deciders. The elected officials are merely there to advise the Deep State military coupists, who will, of course, ignore the "advice" of democratically-elected officials."

    "Even Lt. Colonel Bearclaw says Milley usurped civilian control over the military and must resign."

    The ignorant fools at CNN proclaim their ignorance by describe this as Trump going rogue!
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    I found your Coup.

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    There was a coup in January 2021. And those involved need resign or be fired and where appropriate, court-martialed and imprisoned.
     
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    In the resulting tug of war of command Milley vs POTUS , if China attach Taiwan or launched nukes, we would have been unable to respond until the Secret Service shot Gen Milleyfor staging a coup.
    People taking sides against the presidency are the true white supremacists in America because they think they are better than the Constitution and want to do it their way.
     
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    The President isn't superior to the oath's he's taken to defend the Constitution. You grant him far too much power. And, remember, BOTH McConnell and McCarthy blamed the January 6th riot and Capitol break-in on Trump the following day.
     
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    Where is that from? It's rubbish. I was both an officer and enlisted. Both of mine were:

    I (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
     
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