WOW! See What Happens When an Anti-Semitic Politician learns he is a Jew!!!

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  1. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    All Anti-Semites are idiots without any doubts, I worked in Israel and still admire this great country and its great people!God bless Israel!
     
  3. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely hilarious. More or less a Holocaust denier - until his own grandma tells him his family was nearly wiped out in the very crisis he didn't believe in.

    Gotta wonder if any of our other Denialists would have the sense to have the same epiphany if one of their relatives told them the same thing - ?

    Probably not.
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, that's - informative, Litwin.

     
  6. Bishadi

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    no one is born jew.

    He is now a jewish adherant but no one is born 'jew' and that premise, even if grandma believed in judaism, is what makes the video less than perfect.

    What i loved about it, is that a human being can change.

    Purely put, all them idiots out there that believe that a person is born 'jew' need to give up that stupidity of ignorance and realize that being jewish is to adher to a jewish belief.

    ie... If the man of this video could change, why cant you?

    Truth is a double-edged sword.
     
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    Ha ha ha - hilarious propaganda.

    His 95yr old gran just forgot to mention it.

    It's amazing the things that Jewish women forget. She forget to tell him he was a Jew for like his whole life, Irene Zisblatt forgot to mention her diamond story for half a century, until Spielberg popped up.

    Guess they must have reverse dementia, not recalling things UNTIL they are old.

    It's clearly a set up to discredit that nations third leading democratic party.

    Either he joined with a view to later 'discovering' from his 95yr old granny that he was a Jew, or he isn't a Jew and he's been paid to say what he is now saying.

    Good laugh though.

    :smile:
     
  8. litwin

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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aww, how sweet - invectives instead of directions.

    Just like I hear from the 12-year olds I teach.
     
  10. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    The anti-Jewish crazy people are having a field day.
     
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    Much ado about nothing.

    There are thousands of conservative Jews who hate Jews. There were numerous right-wing Jewish officers who served in Hitler's Nazis and gestapo.

    It's the same as all members of a certain religion such as Methodists, Baptists, Catholics do not like one another. There is no 100% loyalty and devotion to anything or anyone.
     
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    Hmm good point, Is the atheist really a Christian because their grandmother was Christian?
     
  13. Borat

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    Hmm, not really, not a good point at all, a jew is someone whose mother is a jew (99.9%) or someone who has formally converted to Judaism (0.1%), according to Jewish laws. It's more of an ethnicity than religion. but don't take my word for it and most definitely don't take Bishadi's LOL :

    It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox

    http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm
     
  14. Stuart Wolfe

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    Well, let's go by what some of our PF community consider to be the apex of humanity, the Nazi's themselves. According to their Nuremberg Laws, if at least three of a given person's grandparents were Jews, then said individual was a Jew. Since his grandma was Jewish, presumably her husband was as well, so we have at least two down. One can reasonably guess the other two were as well since she says nearly the whole family was wiped out.

    And of course, none of our PF contingent would dare to doubt the wisdom of the Nazi's - would they? :roflol:
     
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    Absolutely, the Nazis did not check Synagogue attendance records when they were sending people to death camps. Lest we forget that anyone with even a drop of Jewish blood was not considered part of the "Master Race" with all the negative consequences that entailed.

    Those who were not classified as Jews but who had some Jewish blood were categorized as Mischlinge (hybrids)and were divided into two groups:


    • Mischlinge of the first degree--those with two Jewish grandparents;
    • Mischlinge of the second degree--those with one Jewish grandparent.
    The Mischlinge were officially excluded from membership in the Nazi Party and all Party organizations (e.g. SA, SS, etc.). Although they were drafted into the Germany Army, they could not attain the rank of officers. They were also barred from the civil service and from certain professions. (Individual Mischlinge were, however, granted exemptions under certain circumstances.) Nazi officials considered plans to sterilize Mischlinge, but this was never done. During World War II, first-degree Mischlinge, incarcerated in concentration camps, were deported to death camps.
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/36qs.html

    This btw also explains the phenomenon of "jewish Nazi soldiers" Jew haters on this forum love so much to bleat about.
     
  16. fifthofnovember

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    Reminds me of this:

    [video=youtube;-_N0ld1aJTM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_N0ld1aJTM[/video]
     
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    Surely this are great news!!!

    I just have a discussion in another forum where my opponent denies that thousands and thousands of Jewsih people managed to escape from the Nazis and he simply have declared them "dead".

    I told him that millions (Jews and non Jews) escaped Europe and changed their way of life, and that many Jews became Christians (mostly Catholics) to avoid prosecution/persecution by the Nazis.

    The former secretary of State of the Clinton administration, Madeleine Albraight, also found out that she was Jewish when a rabbi in Poland told her about her family background.

    Like her, this politician today knows his roots, and his family must be taken out of the six million dead people given officially.

    We can also substract the members of the Albright family from that list of dead people, and if we continue doing so, we might find out that instead of six million dead that solely three and no more than four million Jews died in that war.

    Jewish people who escaped from Europe migrated and lived illegally in several countries like in South America, they changed their names in many ocassions, others became Catholics and assimilated to the new cultures, like the family of this politician of the news did in Hungary.

    So, I still firmly state that you can't take somebody as dead without the corpse.

    Only the counting of bodies will tell you without doubt the number of deads, if you can't find the body, then you can only catalogue his absence as missing.

    As a conclusion, we can state that in WW2 there were 2 million Jews dead (confirmed as dead by counting corpses) and about 4 million missing.

    This is good news because not that many (six million Jews) were killed in WW2 and are living today with a different identity and/or assimilated in other cultures around the world.

    Time for celebration!
     
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    Hang on didnt you say those without Jewish blood cant be gods chosen people? Sounds a bit supremest to me
     
  19. Stuart Wolfe

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    Well, I'm not sure a celebration is quite in order lol - but it's funny that I was reminded of your argument in that other thread when this topic came up.

    While I'm positive some Jews did indeed escape, assumed new identities, and assimilated, I don't really think the number who did would be in the millions. A few thousands in some countries at most, otherwise someone would have noticed a huge uptick in illegal immigrants who appeared out of thin air. But your argument does demolish a previous posters argument that said Grandma just "forgot" to mention it - Grandma was hiding to avoid persecution and the last thing someone with that outlook is going to do is advertise their former identity.
     
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    Bollox to Israel. It's a nest of ethnic cleansers and shysters. Disliking such a disgraceful apology for a democratic State does NOT amount to disliking jews. 25% of the Israeli population isn't jewish- that's the repressed 25%.
     
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    My mother was cremated when she passed, but I never saw either her dead body or her ashes, so I guess she must be "missing", and still alive and kicking somewhere, huh? The same applies to the rest of my family-all now long dead. Or are they? What a stupid, stupid post.
     
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    Holocaust-denial (and by this I do not mean disputing facts about it, but denying it altogether) is not in and of itself racist, rather just historically ignorant to a degree vastly beyond that of even moon-landing denial. Obviously, you can still be both. I'm not sure about this guy because I can't watch the video but if he is I wonder if HBendor or anyone else could show just a quotation. Because I do oppose all racism, but it's annoying having to sort out the fake allegations of "anti-semitism" from the real ones. Like you'll notice I condemn Israel where I feel it is due, which is quite often, and people even call me an anti-semite for it.. I even have some Jewish blood in me (enough to give me license to tell Jew jokes) but I'm no racist!
     
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    you can learn a lot from those 12-year olds, for example how to get subtitles into a youtube video
     
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    Actually you can, you have to convert. It is a process of learning and study. Jews are a religious civilization. We are a people with a religious history. Being jewish can be cultural, familial and/or religious. But someone who pulls a quote without understanding it for the sig to make Jews sound a certain way we can understand why you would see it as "supremest" it is because you want to.
     
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    show me how Israeli citizens who are not Jewish are repressed.
     

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