You get sick and you get over it.

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  1. cirdellin

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    China was the first locus of the infection and consequently the first to get over it then it moved to Iran and Europe and now they are nearly over it. It’s present locus is the United States and given a little time they will get over it. Even people who experienced the Spanish Flu eventually got over it. And this is no Spanish Flu. For that matter people even got over the Bubonic Plague. It’s about exposure not hiding in our houses.
     
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    Not only are you a hypocrite you keep repeating lies. You've attacked a poster that generalized cancer deaths and you have shown no sympathy to anyone who has died from the virus and now you're repeating the lie about Belgium ( which I see you keep running away from when challenged)
     
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    The virus is also leading to early organ failure followed by death
     
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    You've provided a list of countries that refused to take the virus seriously. Japanese all wore masks from day one
     
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    What did Trump do when Wuhan went into lockdown? Nothing other than say everything was a hysterical hoax
     
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    Have you looked at what is happening in Iran? It's out of control there because they opened up too early
     
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    I won’t waste my time arguing with some stranger on a forum but I will end with this. When I speak of organ failure I’m talking about end of life issues as senescence takes its toll on all human bodies. When I speak of cancer and CVD, I’ve summed up the big three and one of these WILL kill you so worry about real threats. By the way the Japanese wore masks long before this virus. Seems to be an Asian thing In general as I saw Asian people wearing masks in Amsterdam maybe a year ago. It makes them feel safer I guess so wear a mask if it makes you feel safer. As for me I say increase the exposure so we can be done with this nonsense.
     
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    I told you I’m done with this. There has been talk of this virus being around for years and things cannot be locked down for that long and the reason things are opening up is that governments are not able to collect taxes and Iran has said as much. But it’s just as true elsewhere. So now governments are making mask laws. It’s a placebo.
     
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    I have been following this thread as I posted very early on. I don't think it's a lack of sympathy for those who died..Covid deaths, cancer deaths, car accident deaths, etc..are all very sad! However, it's a reality, a sad reality the virus isn't going anywhere and we can't deplete our economy over a virus where a majority of people survive. There are people being damaged mentally, look at the suicides, domestic violence has gone up, substance abuse, etc all those things can end up deadly too. What about sympathy for those who lost everything? What about a family that is wondering how they are going to pay the mortgage and put food on the table for their families? What about people who have had medical procedures and screenings delayed? The list could go on and on..where is sympathy for them? Why is it when someone isn't for a lockdown and worries about the economy do they NOT have sympathy? It's possible to be both!
     
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    The million dollar question is...why is the USA the only industrialized nation that has food banks and bread lines due to the pandemic. You are are aware of that fact...right? Think long and hard about why that is as it goes hand in hand with why we have an outrageous amount of cases.
     
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    Trump's blind and misguided optimism was not well placed nor did it prepare him to execute this part of the Presidency. If that's a fireable offense for us as a nation, that's okay(it'd be even more well-received if it didn't come from the crowd who'd impeach the guy for not talking to the dog catcher but I digress lol.)

    However, the greater danger is Xi as we can't A: Impeach the guy and B: He represents an international danger to the entire world. The coronavirus is everywhere and that fault lies explicitly with China for failing to address the situation internally in a timely fashion and then failing its responsibility to the world.

    I feel like we have to be on full alert and awareness as it regards Xi, and we should be prepared to match tit-for-tat if the Chinese were to approach in such a manner.
     
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    It is b/c Trump FAILED in the early stages.

    He, essentially, wasted the entire month of February (when he should have ordered the lockdown).

    The lockdown came too late.

    And then, Trump forced (and favored) a Too Early RE-Opening and here we are.

    Now, the toothpaste is out of the tube and the Virus in the USA is out of control.

    Trump FAILED. Period.
     
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    Congress failed as well as they allowed the treasury to be looted AGAIN! But this time the biggest heist in history. People should have been paid to stay home until it was under control...guided by the scientific protocol of course.
     
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    the chicken pox virus may still be inside you, when your immune system weakens, it may come back as shingles, right now your bodies defenses are keeping it at bay
     
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    some say the reason Trump shutdown the economy is because he knew it was failing, and the only way for him to inject trillions into the mega corps was to use the virus crisis to do so, if that did not work, he would blame it on the virus, win\win as far as Trump was concerned

    Trump had to play down the virus in the beginning to allow it to spread, now that the mega corps have their trillions, Trump wants people to stop fearing it again, but now it's out of his control - no one is listening to him anymore

    is Trump still declaring this a national emergency?
     
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    What is 0.65% of the US population?
     
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    I did. You ignored them.
     
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    I have never heard of anyone catching HIV from going to a store or a trump rally
     
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    Sadly those people are collateral damage to a misplaced cause. It will be years before the world economy gets back on track while China seems to be doing fine again. But I can’t argue my same points over and over again to a bunch of over sensitive terrified people more than willing to enforce their placebo politics and who don’t seem to understand simple proportions. Yes people get sick and die of way more things and in much greater numbers than those taken by this virus. But it’s trendy. Before this we were told that humans would go extinct due to climate change and some said in as little as 12 years! My apologies to chicken little. We are exhausted chicken little by your parade of visions of the end.
     
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    Or attending a BLM protest?

    Are you saying that people should not be allowed to go grocery shopping and should not be allowed to protest because they could get or spread c-19?
     
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    Because nothing says "done" like being DEAD
     
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    Your immune system may be "amazing," but mine has been problematic since birth.

    Where did I indicate panic? Why is everything black or white with some people? You seem to think there is no middle ground between "oh, well, no big deal" and "OMG we're all gonna die!" Your view doesn't seem to allow for a middle ground of sensible caution. Why is that?
     
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    I've been civil with you and would appreciate reciprocation. Implying that I'm living in my mother's basement is a personal insult. They frown on those here, so please lose that snarky attitude and stop posting like you know everything. It is arrogant and rude.
     
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    I listen to the experts. The jury is still out, but it does look like reinfection is possible. They do know that those who have anti-bodies often no longer have them after a couple of months ... that much has been established.

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200622/covid-19-antibodies-can-disappear-after-2-3-months

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/932671

    Like I said, new virus, still learning. This isn't about the effing media.
     
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    Again with the snarky knowitallism. Stop attacking those of us who listen to the experts, trust the actual science, and apply sensible precautions like staying home, and wearing a mask when we must go out.

    Many things can kill you, which is why we do things like use non-skid mats in our bathtubs to keep us from slipping; seat belts in cars to keep us from flying through windshields in crashes; helmet laws in most states to reduce head injuries; special car seats for infants and small children; reducing sodium intake to help prevent hypertension and stroke; balanced diets to help keep out hearts healthy ...

    And so forth and so on ... sensible precautions based on scientific evidence. It's no different with this virus.
     
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