stuart rhodes' lawyers are now complaining that "the justice dept used our client's own words against him?" well, duh. perhaps a few other high profile defendents should learn from rhodes' experience. rhodes was sentenced to 18 years for his jan 6 activities of leading the violent assault in the u s capital. how much will he actually serve?
Why anyone says anything to police, I will never understand. You have the RIGHT to remain silent, and you should ALWAYS exercise that right. Why? Because when police are gathering evidence to convict you, anything you say CAN AND WILL be used against you. Conversely, because rules of evidence forbid hearsay, nothing you say, no matter how exculpatory, can possibly be used in your favor. So, talking to police is NEVER in your favor, and is ALWAYS used against you. The only answer to any question a police officer asks you is "I want a lawyer before answering any questions." As a U.S. citizen, you enjoy the presumption of innocence, and you have the right to remain silent. You have no duty or obligation to cooperate with police who are building a case against you. Their job, in fact their only function, is to find probable cause to torture you and put you in a cage. Don't assist them. People who are complicit in their own conviction deserve what they get.
Hi, Rampart. Responding to the question in the final sentence of the above quote, there's a question to be asked before that one. It's this: What will his sentence be? We do not know whether the case will be appealed, but it well may be. If it is, there's a long path ahead of the case being returned for reconsideration, another appeal, etc., until finally the case may be adjudicated by the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Until that has all played out, the question cannot be answered with any degree of certainty. We can also throw into the speculation mix the possibility of a parole should Mr. Donald Trump become President in 2025. Lot's of water yet to flow under this particular bridge. Regards, stay safe 'n well.
the police's job, in fact their only function, is to maintain the peace and law and order. if it is necessary that you be put in a cage that is not a problem. "torture," by the way, is generally considered by we librals to fall under "cruel and unusual" punishment.
It amazes me how many people don't understand that simple concept. Two common lies the police will say to get you to talk. " I'm just here to get your side of the story ".... Don't fall for it. " I can't help you if you can't help me ".... Don't fall for it. They have zero interest in helping you. They were also lie to you and say that they have evidence against you. Never let them in your house without a warrant and if they show up to your door without a warrant do not step outside of your door. In fact the best thing to do is not even answer the door at all. But if you feel like you must talk to them you ask them for a warrant through the door or window and if they tell you they don't have one advise them that you would like them to leave the property now and that's the end of the conversation.
And the citizens job is to know and demand their rights and not allow the police to trample all over them. It doesn't matter if you're guilty or not. Do the police ever come to your job and help you do your job?
don't citizens, even criminals, also have an interest in "law and order?" we should cooperate with the police as much as possible?
I can't believe you are seriously asking that question. Yes that's what a very smart person does..... Help the police to hang you
You are living pre-9/11; prior to then you would have been closer to correct. Police have no duty to protect nor serve (Castle Rock v. Gonzalez). They only seek to put every person they encounter in jail. They will demand your ID, whether or not you are obligated to provide it. If you give it to them they will run it through their system, generating records of the encounter. If you happen to have a warrant, no matter how minor, they will torture you (handcuffs at the least, perhaps pain compliance, dogpile, tiny back seat no a/c) and take you to the cage. All unnecessary and cruel in most cases. Example: You have a warrant for a parking ticket you didn't know about. You are stopped at a dui checkpoint. The police officer will run your ID and learn about the warrant. You will be put in handcuffs and taken to jail. Your car will be searched and towed. He has not done anything to protect anyone, quite the opposite. He has done nothing to protect or serve the citizenry, quite the opposite. He has done nothing to preserve the peace, quite the opposite. He has no duty to do any of those things. It is the rare cop, these days, who would use his digression to merely tell you about the warrant and give you the opportunity to go take care of it yourself.
How many BLM rioters have been given an 18-year sentence? What about those who burned down a police station and attacked cops? Have there been any?
They will go to any extent to coerce you into voluntarily giving up your rights. They will lie, they will threaten, they will intimidate, they will pretend to be your friend. You are a fool if you give up your rights voluntarily.
Good advice. I never heard of anybody saying anything to a law officer that was produced in court to the defendant's favor. Does not happen.
They always say " why don't you step outside and talk to us "....... The moment you leave your doorway , they can put their hands on you. NEVER step outside
When I was a kid I was at a drinking party and the cops came when somebody's parent called them up wondering where their car was at. Cops come to the door at the house with all the cars parked outside. We would not let them in. So I started talking to some cop outside through a cracked open window. I asked him if he had a wife and kids, what his wife was like, how old his daughter was, what his daughter looks like, and is she available to date. That cop kept trying to quiz me about what was going on inside the house, but I just did not feel like talking about it. Finally I said "Well, I'll talk to her Monday, she is in my geometry class..." That cop did not think very much of me.
