Yulia Skripal is recovering

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I wish people who have no idea of politics would perceive their shortcomings and not post on a politics thread? :mrgreen:
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blimey. Sounds like a paranoid conspiracy theory of Russian assassin's lurking behind every tree and hiding under every bush. Scary.

    Alternatively, we can try to bring common sense and grounded analysis to bear on the subject:

    Skripal's brother, Valery, was 68 years old and died from Liver failure. He suffered extreme weight loss. Possibly Liver cancer or Liver disease. 26,000 people in the UK die every year from this.

    Skripal's wife, Liudmila, died in 2012, of a disseminated endometrial carcinoma.

    Looks to me like the son was sadly susceptible to hereditary cancer.
     
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    Maybe...maybe not, yours is just theory also, I'll wait for the investigators to finish.
     
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    Not only "no idea", but a shocking inability to think critically and decontaminate themselves of designer narratives and group-think.

    It's alarming.
     
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    Should've done that before you started insinuating something was suspicious, don't you think...
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And depressing. Every other MB I've been a member of has had its share of nincompoops and I can live with that, but when there are so many I begin to wonder if it's worth the candle?
     
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    :roflol: what is wrong with you lot tonight

    I said between your two And's it's pending investigation, but you pushed for some opinion.... so I gave you one, outlandish? perhaps... but investigators will take all possibilities into account and meticulously go through the evidence. We'll see
     
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    it happened in Britain, not Russia; more reasons to suspect the British.
    by that logic, most people die suspicious death.
    weight loss due to cancer.
     
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    Yep. You and me both. I honestly never realised just how stupid people had become. Easily manipulated thoughtless sheep.
     
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    Oh Witchy, what a web of deceit you weave.

    My post 43 above responding to yours, did not ask for any further opinion at all. And specifically not from you:

    Case solved. Nothing to see....
     
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    horsey... you are the one weaving the web of deceit, not me... case is not solved but it will be, far too many coincidences in it.
     
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    Maybe, it's a possibility, I believe there are too many coincidences, we'll see what investigators find
     
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    Yulia Skripal is recovering but Denis Voronenkov, a Russian politician who began sharply criticizing Putin after fleeing Russia in 2016 was assassinated killed in Kiev....shot three times in the head March 23, 2017. Putin denied any responsibility....of course!
     
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    what coincidences?
     
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    from earlier in the thread
     
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    Yulia Skripal is recovering but Boris Nemtsov, a physicist & former Russian deputy prime minister was assassinated Feb. 27, 2015. "He was killed just hours after urging the public to join a march against Russian involvement in Ukraine." Also,
    "Nemtsov was working on a report demonstrating that Russian troops were fighting alongside pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine, which the Kremlin had been denying." He was shot four times in the back on a bridge in Moscow.
    Putin denied any responsibility....of course!
     
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    Yulia Skripal is recovering but Sergei Yushenkov was assassinated in April 17, 2003 - "Sergei Yushenkov had just registered his Liberal Russia movement as a political party when he was gunned down outside his home in Moscow. Yushenkov was gathering evidence he believed proved that the Putin government was behind one of the apartment bombings in 1999." Putin denied any responsibility....of course!
     
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    Dumbing Down Project 1987-2018 - mission accomplished, to a degree beyond their wildest expectations? :nod: BBC and ITV - take a bow. :mrgreen:
     
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    Breaking news: Porton Down's Chief Scientist, Gary Aitkenhead, confirms that PD are unable to identify the source of the Novichok. He said that the nerve agent PD had tested was "from this particular family and it is a military grade". He also confirmed there is no known antidote to Novichok.

    Quite apart from destroying Theresa May's and Boris Johnson's previous assertions that Russia was to blame (there has been zero evidence of that), Aitkenhead's statement may be somewhat at variance with the statement of the official solicitor in the affidavit of the Secretary of State for the Home Department before Mr. Justice Williams. In this, Porton Down told the court that:

    https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/sshd-v-skripal-and-another-20180322.pdf

    I imagine that the careful form of words in both cases basically means the same thing. It was Novichok or a closely related agent of the organophosphate family.

    Meanwhile, confusion continues in regard to the well known deadliness of Novichok, which has no known antidote and the surprise recovery of Yulia Skripal in Salisbury Hospital.
     
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    And the plot thickens (again :yawn: )? What an embarrassment.
     
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    Would you care to present evidence of who you know is responsible for killing Nemtsov? I'd be really interested to see what you have? I don't really expect much, if anything at all - mostly because I don't think you know the difference between evidence and slur. But I guess it's worth asking anyway.
     
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    Evidence? From Kabosh?? Fat chance, as you rightly say, SH. Hell would freeze over first!
     
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    No evidence is needed. When something is repeated hundred times- it becomes an evidence. Like it was with Goebbels in Germany.
     
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